It's a matter of degree, though, isn't it? 100 calories of plant agriculture to produce 1 calorie of beef, I think I read. Around 75:1 with chicken. 50:1 for eggs. Then the **** pollution that kills off sea life, the energy consumption inherent in the keeping of animals as monocultures, the extra stages of transportation needed to move plant products to where animals are reared.Hmmm. Given I’ve declared myself as a meat eater, I suppose you’ll be meaning me.
Please don’t think for one moment that the ”consume more, spend more” throwaway society - or the marketing machine that pushes those ideals - leaves vegans alone. We all waste, and we and our governments do less than we should to help those in need unless it becomes politically expedient.
Yes, I’ve just made a very sweeping statement; a set of oversimplified generalisations that seem pretty accurate but in fact do an injustice to a lot of individuals. Just like your statement, in fact. You’ve called me selfish and gluttonous without knowing anything about me.
Another member on this forum (@Hog) posted a thread trying to better understand meat eaters. I’ve been considering for a while whether or not to contribute, and the accommodating welcome I got from others here almost convinced me my opinions would be listened to and considered, and that I would not just be volunteering to appear on trial with the verdict already decided. Thank you for reminding me the understanding of some is not universal..
I mean, I'm very aware of the "last mile" cost of my food, and the packaging issues, and I shop at a local greengrocer and at a grocer that stocks loose dry goods, and I do that shopping by bike, with a trailer and panniers. However, I am also confident that my choice of following a vegan lifestyle reduces by more than two thirds the total calorific cost of my diet, even before I tweak my part of the consumption process.