Health Issues The Everything Covid 19 Thread

[Chryssie]

Walmart limits the number of customers in stores to help fight the spread of coronavirus

Walmart on Saturday began limiting the number of customers who can be in its stores at once because of the coronavirus pandemic.

www.cnn.com

 

[KLS52]

I’m getting nervous. Our covid rate in town is 4.1% I think. I had a dentist appointment for tomorrow for a cleaning but I canceled it. I feel like it can wait. Hopefully spring will bring better news.

 

[KLS52]

We had 20 new cases from 11/6 - 11/13. I’m not sure if that’s a lot or not in the scheme of things. But it’s 20 too many for me.

 

[Lou]

I’m getting nervous. Our covid rate in town is 4.1% I think. I had a dentist appointment for tomorrow for a cleaning but I canceled it. I feel like it can wait. Hopefully spring will bring better news.

I've been to the dentist since this thing started. I felt very safe. you had to knock on the door and wait for someone to let you in. only one patient at a time. questions answered, and temperature taken. the dentist and the assistant had 3 layers of PPE. And I had to gargle with some kind of "disinfectant".

 

[KLS52]

I've been to the dentist since this thing started. I felt very safe. you had to knock on the door and wait for someone to let you in. only one patient at a time. questions answered, and temperature taken. the dentist and the assistant had 3 layers of PPE. And I had to gargle with some kind of "disinfectant".

Yes, I had to go in July when I lost a filling. I just feel like cases are rising every day and I can wait for a general cleaning. I brush often and floss every day. I’m not prone to tartar build up.
Ok...really, I have an irrational fear of the dentist so any excuse to postpone, I’m taking it.

 

[Raven]

I saw the hygienist at the start of the year and I'm going to wait until next year before I go back. My husband had a filling fall out so he had to go. He wasn't allowed to bring in a bag or anything for his appointment.

 

[Urban Gardener]

So far the counties in the Bay Area are doing ok, covid-wise. Much better than most places. I can’t find the data on new cases per day but it must be pretty low. There are only 20 people with Covid in hospitals today. That is for the whole county. And the curve is flat. San Francisco reports about 40 confirmed hospitalized patients. It is starting to go up. In October it was down to 20. As of today, San Francisco is discontinuing indoor eating. Mostly because of a report that stated that indoor eating was very risky. Not sure if that is going to happen here or not. I still don’t go out to eat.

I heard that, and I was thinking about the reasons. Obviously, the Bay Area skews well educated and liberal. But there must be more to it than that.

 

[Lou]

I heard that, and I was thinking about the reasons. Obviously, the Bay Area skews well educated and liberal. But there must be more to it than that.

No, I think that is the main factor.
There may be other factors but I think most of them stem from the level of education here in the Bay Area.
Personally, I believe that liberal attitudes only go up with the level of education. And so does income. I know some will challenge that but there has been a lot of research and polls that support that. (One down below)
BTW, my county went 86% for Biden and just 12% for Trump. I think all political leaders are democrats.
California Governor gets high marks for his leadership in the Pandemic. The Bay Area was one of the first places with Covid patients but we were also one of the first places to shut down. We are still partially shut down. Our schools are still closed. And we got hotel rooms for the homeless.
Granted we took notes on what Washington state and New York City were doing. So we had some clues and forewarning. but other states did not take notes or just ignored them.
We have no great mask debate.

Does your level of education impact your political views?

The Pew Research Center recently published a report indicating that a clear majority of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (let's call them conservatives) believe that U.S. colleges and universities have a negative effect on the country. On the other hand, nearly three-quarters of...

business.uni.edu

 

[shyvas]

Fauci says the nation could start getting back to relative normality by April or July

The coronavirus pandemic has brought countries to a standstill. In many places, as countries reopen, Covid-19 cases are on the rise. Follow here for the latest.

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Dr Fauci actually said (the latest news interview) that life wouldn't be normal before next Autumn.

 

[shyvas]

Comparing COVID-19 and the 1918–19 influenza pandemics in the United Kingdom

We compared the COVID-19 and 1918–19 influenza pandemics in the United Kingdom. We found that the ongoing COVID-19 wave of infection matched the major…

www.sciencedirect.com

Comparing COVID-19 and the 1918–19 influenza pandemics in the United Kingdom

We compared the COVID-19 and 1918–19 influenza pandemics in the United Kingdom. We found that the ongoing COVID-19 wave of infection matched the major…

pdf.sciencedirectassets.com

 

[Urban Gardener]

No, I think that is the main factor.
There may be other factors but I think most of them stem from the level of education here in the Bay Area.
Personally, I believe that liberal attitudes only go up with the level of education. And so does income. I know some will challenge that but there has been a lot of research and polls that support that. (One down below)
BTW, my county went 86% for Biden and just 12% for Trump. I think all political leaders are democrats.
California Governor gets high marks for his leadership in the Pandemic. The Bay Area was one of the first places with Covid patients but we were also one of the first places to shut down. We are still partially shut down. Our schools are still closed. And we got hotel rooms for the homeless.
Granted we took notes on what Washington state and New York City were doing. So we had some clues and forewarning. but other states did not take notes or just ignored them.
We have no great mask debate.

Does your level of education impact your political views?

The Pew Research Center recently published a report indicating that a clear majority of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (let's call them conservatives) believe that U.S. colleges and universities have a negative effect on the country. On the other hand, nearly three-quarters of...

business.uni.edu

The Bay Area is very affluent. It’s not just high-income. It’s also a magnet for people who were born into wealth or other forms of extreme privilege, and people who made enough money to retire early.

That affects the culture there. It’s not just the level of education. It’s also the fact that a disproportionate number of people have lived fairly sheltered lives and have never had friends from other kinds of backgrounds.

When I lived there, I knew a lot of people who didn’t understand the idea of a job being a necessity for paying the bills. They thought a job was a fashion statement.

The culture also really embraces technology even when critical of it. A lot of the anti-big-tech people I knew there were very active users of social media and smart phones. So the idea of staying home with Netflix, Zoom and your iPhone is probably more appealing there than in places where people aren’t online as much.

I think those are important factors.

 

[Urban Gardener]

Comparing COVID-19 and the 1918–19 influenza pandemics in the United Kingdom

We compared the COVID-19 and 1918–19 influenza pandemics in the United Kingdom. We found that the ongoing COVID-19 wave of infection matched the major…

www.sciencedirect.com

Comparing COVID-19 and the 1918–19 influenza pandemics in the United Kingdom

We compared the COVID-19 and 1918–19 influenza pandemics in the United Kingdom. We found that the ongoing COVID-19 wave of infection matched the major…

pdf.sciencedirectassets.com

In 9 months, the U.S. has lost 1/3 the number of people who were killed in the Civil War, which lasted about 4 years. So this pandemic has a higher rate of death than the Civil War.

Of course, both caused more deaths indirectly. One could look at that in more detail later, when we have more information to use. (Plus the Civil War saved lives - people were being murdered or dying prematurely as a result of torture while enslaved, and we’ll never know how many or how long slavery might have lasted otherwise. So it’s not an ideal comparison.)

I think this helps to put it in perspective, though. We all study the Civil War in school and learn about the high death toll.

 

[KLS52]

Daughter just texted that her coworker has been sick for four days with Covid. It started out with a headache and pain on the right side of her neck and ear. I progressed to a fever which has been fairly steady at 101. She just now lost taste and smell. Hopefully it won’t get any worse because I have heard that sometimes it takes five days for it to really hit. Not surprisingly, she contracted it from her niece after spending one evening together with family. Which just goes to show, that as much as we are Covid weary, we cannot let our guard down. Yet sadly, too many people are.

We also received a text last night that my husband’s friend and former business partner’s wife was admitted to the hospital. She had been running fevers of 102 to 104 for about a week but would not go to the doctor. Yesterday morning she started acting disoriented so our friend took her to the ER. Surprisingly, the rapid Covid test came back negative but the doctor is having his doubts so they are keeping her and running more tests.

More and more people that we know are getting sick now. I guess that was to be expected.

 

[shyvas]

Daughter just texted that her coworker has been sick for four days with Covid. It started out with a headache and pain on the right side of her neck and ear. I progressed to a fever which has been fairly steady at 101. She just now lost taste and smell. Hopefully it won’t get any worse because I have heard that sometimes it takes five days for it to really hit. Not surprisingly, she contracted it from her niece after spending one evening together with family. Which just goes to show, that as much as we are Covid weary, we cannot let our guard down. Yet sadly, too many people are.

We also received a text last night that my husband’s friend and former business partner’s wife was admitted to the hospital. She had been running fevers of 102 to 104 for about a week but would not go to the doctor. Yesterday morning she started acting disoriented so our friend took her to the ER. Surprisingly, the rapid Covid test came back negative but the doctor is having his doubts so they are keeping her and running more tests.

More and more people that we know are getting sick now. I guess that was to be expected.

It's the same over here. People aren't respecting the partial lockdown and are still meeting and going away for week ends. Neighbour's girlfriend who lives in Marseille came over for the week end. My other neighbour went away for the latter etc.

I know three people who have caught covid. A lady passed it on to her elderly parents during a get together.

 

[Urban Gardener]

I’m sick of all the precaution-shaming. People think you’re being overly delicate and spoiled if you stay home and avoid crowds. Some of that comes from people who don’t have a choice. They wish they could stay home, but they have jobs that aren’t WFH-friendly. Agh, but some of it is just the “tough guy,” mentality. I think it’s a lot more “tough” to protect your life and the lives of others regardless of what anyone thinks or says about you. Kind of like being vegan versus eating meat. Bacon is presented as, “manly,” but it’s not very manly to give yourself heart failure and support the torture of pigs.

 

[Urban Gardener]

It's the same over here. People aren't respecting the partial lockdown and are still meeting and going away for week ends. Neighbour's girlfriend who lives in Marseille came over for the week end. My other neighbour went away for the latter etc.

I know three people who have caught covid. A lady passed it on to her elderly parents during a get together.

Marseille, France? People are allowed to travel between France and the UK right now?

 

[shyvas]

Marseille, France? People are allowed to travel between France and the UK right now?

I live near Marseille. There are no flights between the latter and the UK. However, I think that the Eurostar is still running between the two countries.

 

[Urban Gardener]

I live near Marseille. There are no flights between the latter and the UK. However, I think that the Eurostar is still running between the two countries.

Oh, I thought you were in England for some reason. Maybe because there are a few regulars from the London area.

 

[Mufflon]

COVID, COVID, COVID...

Can't hear and read it anymore. I'm so freaking tired of it. We had several CT scans of COVID patients during Sunday and it always is a huge hassle and very time consuming for the people involved.

And there is always a bunch of medical staff involved! At least two people from ICU, a cardio technician if it's an ECMO patients, two radiology technicians and a radiologist. Add one of the cleaning team to that crowd. That's six to seven people for one miserable CT-scan and it takes ages to do. Every. Damn. Time.

 

[Freesia]

my online friend who caught it has completed isolation now. they are in lockdown anyway... but she seems in good form.