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The Fire That Burns Within
Everything is trying to kill you.
Such is entropy.
Do the best you can and don't worry too much.
Such is entropy.
Do the best you can and don't worry too much.
Yeah ... I guess there's really no point in discussing hypothetical scenarios when most of us would likely eat a little meat if it were 100% proven that humans need it to avoid sickness.I do hear vegans say they would stay vegan even if it did put their health in jeopardy.
Dec 30, 2023
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Datel said:
OK, yes, unfortunately you will never really find out the real background, which is a shame. But maybe yes, if you researched long enough, but...It probably won't be worth it. But of course I would be interested.
what are you referring to?
So even people eating an everyday omnivore diet often fail to get adequate nutrition. What's the odds they would do better on a plants only diet if they did NOT spend a lot of time learning how to do it?
I don't think it would help sadly. Whenever there is a Youtube debate wherein the vegans are clearly right, there are still die-hard anti-vegans that post sections of the video and label it something like "Carnivore absolutely owns stupid vegan" showing that they have no intention of entertaining truth.I seriously want a showdown between hard core carnivours and wfpb vegans
Like just subbing meat alternative foods for meat? Even Dr Greger agrees with that!I'd say pretty good since the average plant based diet has more nutrient dense whole foods than the average omni diet. And even if it did put you at higher risk of minor nutrient deficiencies the real health problems people suffer from as a result of diet have far more to do with nutritional excess.
Dr. Greger's daily dozen is perfect for people new to veganism who don't want to think too much about nutrition.
I wonder if these 'carniours' consume the whole animal, innards, brains, bones?I don't think it would help sadly. Whenever there is a Youtube debate wherein the vegans are clearly right, there are still die-hard anti-vegans that post sections of the video and label it something like "Carnivore absolutely owns stupid vegan" showing that they have no intention of entertaining truth.
Many carnivour sites say fiber is the cause of constipation! The ones that show a picture of a child holding broccoli with a yuck faceI just realized that these carnivores must not be getting any fiber.
They are probably so constipated they can't think straight
Why do so many of these social media carnivores call themselves Dr when they either have no qualifications or have had their license revoked?I wonder if these 'carniours' consume the whole animal, innards, brains, bones?
Many carnivour sites say fiber is the cause of constipation! The ones that show a picture of a child holding broccoli with a yuck face
Hooo....Just went incognito and found a site by Dr Kiltz (LOL!) that is nothing but lies! One is that meat is 100% easily digested while fibrous produce ferment and can damage internal organs. And that high fiber diets cause pain while pooping , and constipation
I just realized that these carnivores must not be getting any fiber.
They are probably so constipated they can't think straight
5 days, ewww. I so remember when I gave up meat realizing how much lighter my gut felt.. I used to feel like food was fermenting in my stomach, not so much bloating--I don't really remember other than thinking it seems like something rotting. That absolutely disappeared when I went plant based.I watched a British tv show where they gave one twin an extremely high fiber plant based diet, and the other twin a meat heavy low fiber diet. At the end they swallowed trackers that documented how fast food was moving through the GI tract. The plant based fiber tracker came out the next day. 5 days later the meat dominant low fiber twin still hadn't managed to poop the tracker out.
^ This ^ It frustrates the heck out of me that you can show these people and other anti-vegans all the evidence in the world and they simply won't budge. They don't really care whether or not they are right, because what they do is what they want to do.I don't think it would help sadly. Whenever there is a Youtube debate wherein the vegans are clearly right, there are still die-hard anti-vegans that post sections of the video and label it something like "Carnivore absolutely owns stupid vegan" showing that they have no intention of entertaining truth.
I often wonder that too. IF one wants to be a carnivore, then to get adequate nutrition one should eat the whole animal nose to tail because it's the organs that provide many vitamins and minerals. I sometimes see people who eat nothing but steak and bacon saying that they are now powerhouses of health and longevity. I'm sorry, but probably not...I wonder if these 'carniours' consume the whole animal, innards, brains, bones?
Yes, they do (allowed or not) or use them, I guess. And others as well. Knowingly or not. You could shred the whole animal/slaughter offal, leaving a pulp that e.g. food technicians can process into delicious dishes/ingredients, I guess. So, I remember, cookies were once made (not forbidden) from/with pork bristles. It can make your mouth water. Or somewhere else entirely. Or other slaughterhouse waste is (not forbidden) used for fabric softener (so do not use such in any case). And so on.I wonder if these 'carniours' consume the whole animal, innards, brains, bones?
I just realized that these carnivores must not be getting any fiber.
They are probably so constipated they can't think straight
(Bold emphasis mine)It's very common to see carnivores posting on Twitter saying they haven't taken a sh1t in days. Sometimes over a week!
Their argument is usually that they don't need to go number two's because the body absorbs all the nutrients from the meat and there's nothing left to poop out ... lol
You have to wonder about the general level of intelligence among humans these days.
Huh. Y'know that sounds logical.It's very common to see carnivores posting on Twitter saying they haven't taken a sh1t in days. Sometimes over a week!
Their argument is usually that they don't need to go number two's because the body absorbs all the nutrients from the meat and there's nothing left to poop out ... lol
You have to wonder about the general level of intelligence among humans these days.