Until people suffer from negative side-effects, are tired of the restrictive food choices and/or the next fad diet hype comes around.
I think it’s important to remember that, while it still doesn’t make it justified, some people do actually at least think they have good reasons for not being vegan anymore. For example, rather than just the usual “being vegan made me ill” touted by someone not researching and following good vegan nutrition advice, someone might genuinely develop or deteriorate with a health issue/s that actually does make being vegan much more difficult, if not impossible, to be healthy with, and they may have to go back to being veggie or even eating meat again because it would be insanely difficult or even impossible for them to be vegan and not get very sick/die young. Like I said, this doesn’t make it justified, but supporting someone’s choices/actions and just understanding and respecting the choices for the reasons why they made those choices are different. Also, you can love the sinner without loving the sin. Whether you agree with someone or their behaviour or not, no matter how passionately opposed to someone’s choices you may be, I believe it’s important to still be kind, civil, compassionate and understanding towards them as a sentient being and to their issues. Don’t get me wrong, it’s very important to promote veganism and help animals and the planet, but it’s also important to be kind to those who are not vegan, especially if they have fallen on hard times with their mental/physical health.
Yes, some have tried several "diets", although vegan is not a diet. There is one couple on youtub who are carnivores.
I do believe most "vegans" do not do their homework before they start and during their vegan journey. Many "ex" vegans report they had this
Me vegan for 35 years now. I believe in making a commitment. However, I have seen vegans who switched back after 10, 15,
They indeed never have been vegans. Once you realize you’ve been unknowingly facilitating an industry of murder you either become vegan and at the very least not participate or you’re are murderer if you chose to continue participating from then on knowingly.
You have no empathy for human weakness and/or you are incredibly naive.
I was force fed meat while chained with metal chains and padlocks by humans to cure my “mental illness” of veganism. I have very little empathy left for people having difficulties with finding alternative pleasures other than torture and murder! Not sorry for my views at all! No empathy to murderers and torturer to accommodate their “struggles” from the lack of their “pleasure” of murdering and torturing animals from me, AT ALL!
I don't agree with this at all.
Alex O’Connor went “vegan” for “intellectual reasons” or smth after he lost a debate and became “ex-vegan” cause he got the shits. For anyone even half as intelligent as him it’s absolutely easy to work out how diarrhea works and what in the current circumstances causes it. And my more famous namesake Alex is doing the “if you can’t beat them join them” for religions so much it makes me wonder has he tried that with the vegan movement too, which just turned out to not be a religion and he had to save face. I never fully believed he had the epiphany about veganism and later going back to corpses and secretions over having the shots proved me right. I’ve trained and dieted 100+ people and at least 20 had the shots and I worked it out for them and they didn’t end up having “medical reasons” to go back to paying a murderous industry and he could have hired a guy or two or three that work what I work and solve the said shits, but he didn’t. He hired someone just to provide him with the convenience of not having to admit how shallow his motivations to go vegan were. There is absolutely zero need for anyone to eat animal products for health reasons.
I agree with that bit. But I also think that there are other things at play here (psychologically). I don't believe he has simply gone back to carnism especially considering how damn well thought out his arguments were.
Ohhh no consideration for the mosquito at all, or for fleas, or in a lot of circumstances for mice and rats and such. That’s self&property defense, which is not speciest at all, same rules would go for a human actually. For the other species where we have no defense argument I’ve noticed our feature empathy has a thing or two to say: what I mean is that a sea sponge, being an animal and all, triggers no empathetic reaction in people as it has certainly zero capacity of let’s say pain. This feeling is interpreted in a brain and sea sponges are an example of an animal that has zero brain, ganglions or whatever. It has a very simple single layer nervous network an no capacity for anything than constricting itself upon touch. There’s no interpretation, no reaction to anything else - thus it’s quite equal to Venus flytrap in reactionary features. Then when you go up in complexity you see a stronger and stronger empathetic response as the features of the nervous systems become a fuller set to what our experience is. So that is pretty understandable. I see quite well this spectrum and I look with some sort of disapproval at say bee products and complete disgust from the perpetrators of the horrors say cows, pigs and dogs are subjected to for that one taste and feeling of superiority. You’re kinda right this spectrum and the nuances are often lost in public discourse, but I suppose that’s because the masses are usually pretty stupid and you can’t reach to them with all the nuances of reality and when you simplify for the plebs it sounds like “eat and use nothing with a face or a mother”.
I have never had an issue with cross-contamination.
I've had it both grilled and microwaved...one time each...and the microwaved one was gross. I couldn't even finish it.
Do you really think going personal and judging somebody's character traits lead to constructive debate? I bethink not.
