US How Did The US Become Obsessed-Protein?
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Well, with the risk of "feeding a fed horse".
here is the myth exposed again.
"the general population needs far less than is often made out by fitness influencers pushing high-protein recipes."
www.theguardian.com
here is the myth exposed again.
"the general population needs far less than is often made out by fitness influencers pushing high-protein recipes."
Is it true that … most of us aren’t getting enough protein?
The general population needs far less protein than is often made out by influencers. Don’t miss out on other important aspects of your diet
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Another good info article on protein.
It almost feels like an outbreak of good reporting.
www.cnet.com
It almost feels like an outbreak of good reporting.
You Can Stop Worrying About Your 'Protein Goals,' According to Experts
Though 'protein goals' has become a trend, it's one that's not rooted in reality for many Americans.
www.cnet.com
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then this showed up
www.eatingwell.com
but it turns out its a good article about walnuts.
I don't like walnuts that much. I eat peanuts almost every day. and I use slivered almonds in my salads, and sometimes in my oatmeal. And I've added 2 cashew nuts /day to my diet.
But after reading this article I'm going to buy some chopped walnuts. they might also be good in salads and oatmeal.
The #1 Protein You Should Be Eating to Help Lower Cholesterol, According to Dietitians
Walnuts are packed with cholesterol-lowering nutrients like fiber, healthy fats and antioxidants. Learn tasty ways to add these nuts to your diet.
but it turns out its a good article about walnuts.
I don't like walnuts that much. I eat peanuts almost every day. and I use slivered almonds in my salads, and sometimes in my oatmeal. And I've added 2 cashew nuts /day to my diet.
But after reading this article I'm going to buy some chopped walnuts. they might also be good in salads and oatmeal.
I love walnuts, and I put them in oatmeal, quick breads, salads, trail mix and more. I try to have a few handfuls a week. I watch the portions, because I could easily go overboard on them.then this showed up
The #1 Protein You Should Be Eating to Help Lower Cholesterol, According to Dietitians
Walnuts are packed with cholesterol-lowering nutrients like fiber, healthy fats and antioxidants. Learn tasty ways to add these nuts to your diet.
but it turns out its a good article about walnuts.
I don't like walnuts that much. I eat peanuts almost every day. and I use slivered almonds in my salads, and sometimes in my oatmeal. And I've added 2 cashew nuts /day to my diet.
But after reading this article I'm going to buy some chopped walnuts. they might also be good in salads and oatmeal.
I love walnuts! Here I can get them at 2.50 a pound. I use them as the protein in my salads if I have no beans. I process with dates and stuff for snack balls. Make 'snickers' type candy with oat flour, dates, cocoa and chocolate dipped. Nut rolls! Love them as dark chocolate clustersthen this showed up
The #1 Protein You Should Be Eating to Help Lower Cholesterol, According to Dietitians
Walnuts are packed with cholesterol-lowering nutrients like fiber, healthy fats and antioxidants. Learn tasty ways to add these nuts to your diet.
but it turns out its a good article about walnuts.
I don't like walnuts that much. I eat peanuts almost every day. and I use slivered almonds in my salads, and sometimes in my oatmeal. And I've added 2 cashew nuts /day to my diet.
But after reading this article I'm going to buy some chopped walnuts. they might also be good in salads and oatmeal.
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Fudgy No-Bake Brownies | NutritionFacts.org
A quick and easy way to satisfy your sweet tooth while keeping it healthy.
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I mostly just soak like a cup of dates to soften, drain (save water!) and add about 3/4 cup walnuts, couple Tbs flax, glob of peanut butter, couple Tbls cocoa, process well. See how sticky it is and add oats till it forms a good ball. I chill then make balls, or bars, then add some oat flour in a container and shake to coat them and keep in fridge
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thanksFudgy No-Bake Brownies | NutritionFacts.org
A quick and easy way to satisfy your sweet tooth while keeping it healthy.
I mostly just soak like a cup of dates to soften, drain (save water!) and add about 3/4 cup walnuts, couple Tbs flax, glob of peanut butter, couple Tbls cocoa, process well. See how sticky it is and add oats till it forms a good ball. I chill then make balls, or bars, then add some oat flour in a container and shake to coat them and keep in fridge
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Protein is essential in any possible diet for humans. But this culture has been lead, yes lead, to think of just certain products, that are coming from animals, as protein food. Protein is not needed in the large quantities diets now emphasize. I have Vega protein powder on hand, but now I am hardly using it, mostly what I had for having it added is no longer available, there are few things for it now.
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I don't even remember the last time I used the protein powder on hand. It is likely the most neglected thing I have around for food now.
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And these articles keep on coming..
www.buzzfeed.com
“We’ve been sold the idea that protein is the golden ticket to health, but this has far more to do with marketing than with science,” said Dr. Luke Wilson, a general practitioner, lifestyle medicine practitioner and board director at Doctors for Nutrition, which champions plant-based nutrition for disease prevention and care. “In reality, our bodies are incredibly efficient at getting what they need from regular, plant-based whole foods. If you’re eating enough calories from a variety of plant foods, you’re getting enough protein.”
"We Don’t Need More": Doctors Are Begging People To Not Overdo This Diet Plan That's Everywhere
"This has far more to do with marketing than with science,” one doctor said of this trendy diet plan.
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And everyone might find this latest video from Chris MacAskill of interest too:
IMO, the protein myth is a focus on profit generating industries; in short, capitalism… We are constantly lied to, just consider the largest, most powerful land animals on earth, they are vegan…And these articles keep on coming..
“We’ve been sold the idea that protein is the golden ticket to health, but this has far more to do with marketing than with science,” said Dr. Luke Wilson, a general practitioner, lifestyle medicine practitioner and board director at Doctors for Nutrition, which champions plant-based nutrition for disease prevention and care. “In reality, our bodies are incredibly efficient at getting what they need from regular, plant-based whole foods. If you’re eating enough calories from a variety of plant foods, you’re getting enough protein.”
"We Don’t Need More": Doctors Are Begging People To Not Overdo This Diet Plan That's Everywhere
"This has far more to do with marketing than with science,” one doctor said of this trendy diet plan.
Whilst those animals are certainly plant-based (not vegan, as veganism is an ethical stance), they also often have a far more advanced digestive system that can break down more nutrients from things like grass and for the most part, especially in the wild, generate their own B12 among other things.
But I agree, that protein is not really an issue anyway. I just don't see it as helpful to use animals such as elephants, moose etc as a gotcha, when they have completely different digestive systems. It strikes me as disingenuous.
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I know what you mean but it's not That disingenuous. Hervbivores typically have much more complicated digestive systems. That allows them to break down more forms of carbohydrates than onnivores and carnivores can. But if you are answering the question where do you get your protein from - you can truthfully reply, the same place elephants and cows and whales get theirs.
We’re all entitled to an opinion… veganism is non-animal food choices, imo, and also the dictionary definition… Also, human physiology is herbivorous, not omnivorous… Yes, some herbivores are ruminants, while others are not, as each species is unique… Furthermore, while I’m not omniscient, what’s your motive for suggesting that I’m insincere?
Veganism is not just food. Leather is non vegan, as is silk and using animal parts for any other things.
"Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."
I haven't mentioned human physiology. We are definitely more toward herbivorous, although we are obviously omnivores physically.
My point is that using such examples as to why protein is not so important as made out is comparing apples with oranges.
I have been mostly "vegan" for almost 4 years now, but one thing I dislike is fallacious arguments.
Perhaps I should have used that word, rather than disingenuous. But the word is directed at the use of unfair comparisons...
Except you can't.
Cows and other ruminants eat grass. We can't.
Elephants have a system of fermentation and they eat leaves, grass, bark etc as well as other stuff.
And most if not all whales are carnivorous anyway.
But yes, disingenuous is a harsher word than necessary. But it is meant to apply to the comparison, rather than the person... :/
What we can rightfully compare is other great apes such as gorillas and chimps, but even they are not 100% plant-based eaters.
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