Hi.
Just thought I would join and check this place out and share some thoughts.
First off, I just ditched /r/vegan because of the extreme vegans and toxic atmosphere.
I gave up meat, dairy, eggs, and all other animal products a short few months ago.
I get hate over there because I am not against dog breeding if done correctly. Okay, for sure, some dogs still need a non-vegan diet, but vegan dog food exists, and biomeat will surely replace animals pretty soon. And I assume that most meat that's used in petfood is the off-cuts that are not sold for human consumption.
(If I am incorrect then let me know).
However, I love dogs, and of course we should try to adopt from a rescue centre where possible, but here in Sweden, there are not many of those, and none within 3 hours of where I am. We don't have a stray dog problem as far as I can see. Dogs must be chipped, jabbed etc and the cost is very high, even for rescues.
Aside from the potential issue with dog food, I see the human-canine relationship as a very healthy, mutually beneficial relationship, rather than exploitation.
Others may see it differently, and that's fine.
I also do not have an issue with using non-vegan clothes that were bought before making the change. I am strongly opposed to trashing them which some people have suggested.
We grow a lot of our own veg in summer, have fruit, potatoes, bok-choy, herbs, cucumber, tomatoes, raspberries, blackcurrents, blueberries, redberries, gooseberries rhubarb etc.
Anyway, I hope it's cool.
(btw I am the only vegan I know nearby, including my family, but as I do all the cooking, they eat 90% vegan
) Head-chef G0rph. Male (in my 50s)
Just thought I would join and check this place out and share some thoughts.
First off, I just ditched /r/vegan because of the extreme vegans and toxic atmosphere.
I gave up meat, dairy, eggs, and all other animal products a short few months ago.
I get hate over there because I am not against dog breeding if done correctly. Okay, for sure, some dogs still need a non-vegan diet, but vegan dog food exists, and biomeat will surely replace animals pretty soon. And I assume that most meat that's used in petfood is the off-cuts that are not sold for human consumption.
(If I am incorrect then let me know).
However, I love dogs, and of course we should try to adopt from a rescue centre where possible, but here in Sweden, there are not many of those, and none within 3 hours of where I am. We don't have a stray dog problem as far as I can see. Dogs must be chipped, jabbed etc and the cost is very high, even for rescues.
Aside from the potential issue with dog food, I see the human-canine relationship as a very healthy, mutually beneficial relationship, rather than exploitation.
Others may see it differently, and that's fine.
I also do not have an issue with using non-vegan clothes that were bought before making the change. I am strongly opposed to trashing them which some people have suggested.
We grow a lot of our own veg in summer, have fruit, potatoes, bok-choy, herbs, cucumber, tomatoes, raspberries, blackcurrents, blueberries, redberries, gooseberries rhubarb etc.
Anyway, I hope it's cool.
(btw I am the only vegan I know nearby, including my family, but as I do all the cooking, they eat 90% vegan