Four More Years!

[mlp]

New World Order? Doesn't there have to be an Old World Order first? Or ANY world order? Seriously, stop making the Independents look like morons with this History Channel ********.

Any claims about anything that could have happened but didn't is a guessing game.

Unless, of course, one can travel to parallel dimensions.

The two most to-the-point posts in this thread.

 

[Muggle]

My reaction this morning when woken up by my mother shouting through my door "Get up. Obama won!" as told through gifs.

Spoiler

 

[Freesia]

I do agree that it was a travesty to suppress the other parties. However I am relieved that women wont have to go and have dangerous back street abortions and gay marriage gets a chance. And my hope is that Obama will realise that he can really make a difference this time, my hope is that he stands up to those lobby groups and stops all the military interventions and focuses on peace and the environment and financial wellbeing of his country.

 

[Wolfie]

Gotta say Im a little saddened by some pictures Ive seen of women being upset Romney lost...the man damn near wanted to send them all back to the 40's...

That was what I loathed most about him and his big-eared running mate. Unlike most here I am on more conservative on the financial side of things but I didn't want Romney winning because it would be a huge setback to women and gay rights.

Still, Gary Johnson in 2016!

 

[silva]

I do agree that it was a travesty to suppress the other parties. However I am relieved that women wont have to go and have dangerous back street abortions and gay marriage gets a chance. And my hope is that Obama will realise that he can really make a difference this time, my hope is that he stands up to those lobby groups and stops all the military interventions and focuses on peace and the environment and financial wellbeing of his country.

Not to mention that if abortion were only legal for cases of rape or incest the number of reported "rapes" would skyrocket.
Men should also be relieved.

 

[ledboots]

I just want to reassure the people from outside the US that no matter who wins the presidency in the future, he cannot enact draconian laws on the spur of the moment. Our congress makes the laws, and the president either signs them into law or rejects them. And the woman's right to abortion is protected by a supreme court decision, so no one is going to be able to run roughshod over it. Certainly laws can be passed to make it more difficult for a woman to obtain an abortion, but these are usually state laws and have nothing at all to do with the president.

 

[RabbitLuvr]

And the woman's right to abortion is protected by a supreme court decision, so no one is going to be able to run roughshod over it. Certainly laws can be passed to make it more difficult for a woman to obtain an abortion, but these are usually state laws and have nothing at all to do with the president.

Yes, but Ruth Bader Ginsberg is planning on retiring in 2015. If Romney had won, he would have been able to appoint someone with ultra-conservative ideals, including but not limited to, overturning Roe v Wade.

So who the president is in 2015 does have an impact on federal laws regarding abortion.

 

[ledboots]

Yes, but Ruth Bader Ginsberg is planning on retiring in 2015. If Romney had won, he would have been able to appoint someone with ultra-conservative ideals, including but not limited to, overturning Roe v Wade.

So who the president is in 2015 does have an impact on federal laws regarding abortion.

That is true. In fact, as many as three may retire during Obama's administration, so that could be a big change.

 

[Freesia]

Men should also be relieved.

Everyone should be relieved .

 

[Freesia]

Yes, but Ruth Bader Ginsberg is planning on retiring in 2015. If Romney had won, he would have been able to appoint someone with ultra-conservative ideals, including but not limited to, overturning Roe v Wade.

So who the president is in 2015 does have an impact on federal laws regarding abortion.

Not only that but local politicians can pass laws forcing doctors to put cameras inside women before abortion, or even worse. Who knows what those local politicians would have done if Romney had got in? It would be a full 1984 on pregnant women and noone would have been able to stop it.

 

[ledboots]

Not only that but local politicians can pass laws forcing doctors to put cameras inside women before abortion, or even worse. Who knows what those local politicians would have done if Romney had got in? It would be a full 1984 on pregnant women and noone would have been able to stop it.

The US president has no authority over what the states legislate, so it doesn't matter who the president is in those cases. State laws are totally separate; it would be the governor involved there. Example: marijuana is illegal federally, but yesterday two states voted to decriminalize, tax, and sell it.

Both US parties use the abortion question shamelessly in national elections to freak out the electorate.

 

[thefadedone]

The US president has no authority over what the states legislate, so it doesn't matter who the president is in those cases. State laws are totally separate; it would be the governor involved there. Example: marijuana is illegal federally, but yesterday two states voted to decriminalize, tax, and sell it.

Both US parties use the abortion question shamelessly in national elections to freak out the electorate.

It will be ineteresting to see how that plays out.

 

[mlp]

It's in the appointment of Supreme Court Justices that Presidents arguably exert their most long lasting influence on the nation.

The Court has been right leaning for quite a number of years - one more conservative justice could very well erode choice completely.

Not to mention other decisions with tremendous impact. Thanks to Citizens United, we had a two billion dollar presidential election this time around.

 

[Spang]

Naughty words:

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[PiSis]

more naughty words:

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[Envy]

thug life

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[Second Summer]

I think it was in John Snow's blog I read speculations that the defeat may have a positive (from my perspective) impact on the Republicans. The demographics just don't support continued anti-abortion and anti-gay rhetoric any more, so they may be forced to phase it out.

 

[KLS52]

 

[Wolfie]

I think it was in John Snow's blog I read speculations that the defeat may have a positive (from my perspective) impact on the Republicans. The demographics just don't support continued anti-abortion and anti-gay rhetoric any more, so they may be forced to phase it out.

We can hope. I may actually vote for one then (if Gary Johnson calls it quits )

 

[rainforests1]

I read this election had 10 million less voters than the previous election. Democrats are trying to make it look like a victory, but realistically the decreasing number of voters shows many Americans are feeling the same way many of us do:both parties are jokes.