Thank you. This attitude that older people are expendable is horrible, like we don't matter. We have lives, too, and very fulfilling ones at that.I don’t see the fear of death/getting sick as the main issue. I think it’s more the inconvenience of being quarantined and having activities/classes, etc., cancelled. For the most part we are selfish/spoiled creatures and we don’t like having an interruption in what we perceive to be “the norm”. I think that’s what the hoarding is all about.
And if I may address the issue of old people, I am 68 years old and I don’t think that qualifies me for being more expendable or people not taking this situation seriously enough because they are not likely to get really sick and/or die because they are younger so, therefore, have more of a right to live.
Many senior-aged people have very active social lives.
I do not think Covid19 is going to be the beginning of the “end of days”.
Health Issues The Everything Covid 19 Thread
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MoreGreens
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I'm happy to say despite his claims that he meant no harm, the state is investigating him, and today, it was reported that he's donating the hand sanitizer to first responders and local churches. Price gouging is the lowest of the low.There are a lot of households in my area with kids, so with the kids home it makes sense that there would be more bathroom visits. So I thought it was local people engaging in panic buying.
Nope, it's assholes taking advantage of the situation, who bought loads of TP, masks and hand sanitizer when the virus first hit the news.
Like this guy:
He has 17,700 bottles of hand sanitizer and nowhere to sell them
On March 1, the day after the first coronavirus death in the United States was announced, brothers Matt and Noah Colvin set out in a silver SUV to pick up some hand sanitizer. Driving around Chattanooga, Tennessee, they hit a Dollar Tree, then a Walmart, a Staples and a Home Depot.www.boston.com
The article actually tries to make him the victim, because Amazon and Ebay won't let him sell his inventory for exorbitant prices. Boo hoo...
I bet Martin Shkreli is his hero.
Lou
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Up until a few days ago I have been going to a Medical Center/Hospital everyday. Looking back it is interesting how Kaiser reacted. For instance, a couple of weeks ago only a few sections seemed concerned. But precautions and measures have increased in almost an exponential scale.
I think I'm part of the population most at risk so right from the beginning I was encouraged to take every precaution the Kaiser constantly checked with me that I was getting everything I needed.
I'm not panicked but I am worried.
I think I'm part of the population most at risk so right from the beginning I was encouraged to take every precaution the Kaiser constantly checked with me that I was getting everything I needed.
I'm not panicked but I am worried.
Lou
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The governor of California is asking all citizens over 65 to self-quarantine.
beancounter
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Yea, I saw that article today as well. How he could have possibly thought that an article documenting his price gouging scheme was going to garner him sympathy is beyond me.
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Thank you for sharing. Just a couple of questions: 1) Did you get the flu the year you got vaccinated? I know people that get vaccinated nearly every year, and they often have flu symptoms after the vaccination. 2) I assumed from your posts you were vegan. Is there a reason you don't list as one?
I have a little history working with children, although not a lot (I taught music for a short period), and I sometimes came into contact with students that were sick/sniffling. One I asked directly and found out she was a daily dairy user. About your lifestyle identification - you list as vegetarian but said here you are vegan...and for over a decade. May I ask why you list as vegetarian?
Stress can effect our immune systems as can diet. Thanks for sharing your story, however I'm a little confused, as you also do not list, have stated that eggs/dairy are not an issue for you (vegan at home...not elsewhere according to your intro), so I'm a little curious what diet change you mean. I experienced several health changes going from semi-vegetarian to vegan.
I was referring to when I stopped eating meat, about three decades ago, and when I largely stopped eating dairy and eggs, almost two decades ago. (I eat away from home fewer than a handful of times a year.)
In neither case did I notice any changes in my health; I was healthy before, and remained healthy after.
I agree that stress can have many negative effects on health. Fortunately, in my case it did not have that effect. I had a high stress job, worked long hours, and sometimes was so busy that I sometimes would suddenly realize that I hadn't eaten in several days. My personal life hasn't been a piece of cake either.
I was born with rickets and spent my early months being fed carrot juice and getting sunlamp treatments. Apparently, that contributed to providing me with a strong immune system. I never got any of the childhood illnesses, such as the mumps, chicken pox or measles, even though my mother sent me to visit the sick kids because she wanted me to get those as early as possible.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that the luck of the draw can't be discounted when it comes to health. So much of our lifetime health is already determined at birth.
Of course there are things each of us can do to decrease health risks, but that's all that's possible - a decrease, not an eimination.
And some of us have more tolerances built in than others do. When I was growing up, my uncles let an old acquaintance park his trailer home on their property. Joe drank himself unconscious every day with the cheapest rotgut alcohol available. He smoked, and his diet consisted of bologna sandwiches. AFAIK, he lived this way pretty much all his adult life. He was close to ninety when he died.
Of course there are things each of us can do to decrease health risks, but that's all that's possible - a decrease, not an eimination.
And some of us have more tolerances built in than others do. When I was growing up, my uncles let an old acquaintance park his trailer home on their property. Joe drank himself unconscious every day with the cheapest rotgut alcohol available. He smoked, and his diet consisted of bologna sandwiches. AFAIK, he lived this way pretty much all his adult life. He was close to ninety when he died.
OP
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Easyjet which is UK's largest airline is cancelling the majority of it's flights for an un foreseen future :
www.express.co.uk
EasyJet flights cancellations - grounds large number of flights
EASYJET has announced on its website it has grounded a significant number of flights as it responds to coronavirus.
OP
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Heartwarming Moments Quarantined Italians Sing Together from Balconies. 
I cannot imagine such scenes in my neighbourhood.
I cannot imagine such scenes in my neighbourhood.
Well... I'm sure everyone here is doing this already, but I still think this is good to restate.
Chryssie
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I am not vegan at this time. I try my best but sometimes I will eat cheese (as in going out for pizza). I do not eat other dairy products however.
Val
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Your mother did send you to visit sick kids deliberately? Ouch... Maybe she had her own reason, but that seems a little unfair... (It's none of my business, anyway,- i'm just a little surprised). But(!), considering that there is still no vaccine against chicken pox... maybe that was the ONLY right decision. I had chicken pox at 10y.o., and it was too late (i suffered a lot, because i was too old already). My sister had chicken pox at 6.5y.o., and she didn't feel as awful as i did. So, the earlier - the better.
Yes, that was my mother's thinking - that the younger one was, the less sick one would get. I just never got any of those illnesses at all.
I wonder how long until it's safe to fly. Supposed to go back home in April, but I don't think I will.
Lou
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Restaurants are really hard-pressed right now. If you have a favorite restaurant buy some gift cards which you can use later (if you're still alive, and if not you won't care).
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This is what I'm starting to think. I must get my will sorted.
Apparently, we will be in a lock down as from Wednesday.
