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i never said vegetarians were worse than omnis. i said that eating ONLY eggs and dairy and NO meat was ethically worse than eating ONLY meat and NO eggs and dairy.Well, I'm pretty sure that in a previous video, you said that Vegetarians were worse than Omnis....
But I don't have the time to dig through the other forum to find the comments by Joan Kennedy.
i so agree. i struggle with it every day. my ultimate goal is to help the animals and at times alienating potential vegans does not achieve that.It is difficult not to despair and lash out at humanity's ignorance and apathy but it yields little. Everyone has their own path - how we as vegans interact with non-vegan and vegan individuals alike may either positively or negatively affect the course they take. It's a challenging conflict of the head and the heart. One that I struggle with daily.
it is very sad, that is true. i think sometimes that's under all the anger...I don't hate vegetarians or omnis, though I kinda see them all on the same level. They just annoy me, and I am saddened by their actions.
Vegans are not an elite who exclude others. No.are vegans elitist exclusionists who hate everyone who isn’t vegan?
Hatred doesn't help anyone.
It is difficult not to despair and lash out at humanity's ignorance and apathy but it yields little. Everyone has their own path - how we as vegans interact with non-vegan and vegan individuals alike may either positively or negatively affect the course they take. It's a challenging conflict of the head and the heart. One that I struggle with daily.
ha! perfect exchange. ;PVegans are not an elite who exclude others. No.
Vegans are an elite, obviously. It's an elite that others choose to exclude themselves from though.
Usualy the invitations to join the vegan elite go something like this ...
Vegan; Spends an hour on fact delivery, explaining benefits, Q&A, etc ...
Omni; Wow! I didn't know hardly any of that .. can I have a bacon sandwich?
Responding to Moll Flander's post which said "to know that a vegan ranting at me or putting me down for being veggie would not have made me transition to veganism." Well, when I became vegetarian (I had never even HEARD of veganism before - thank god for the internet which opened my eyes), I became a vegan within a very short time because someone on VB told me I was being a f***ing hypocrite. That really make me think and the next day I was vegan. So that's just to say that some people prefer being told that a spade is spade. I will always be grateful to the person who had the honesty to tell me what they thought of me.
Absolute rubbish!.. I became a vegan within a very short time because someone on VB told me I was being a f***ing hypocrite.
ha! perfect exchange. ;P
great points Diana thank you!Well, I think vegatarians are worse than omnis.
Because there is no logic behind their reasoning and they are hypocritical to the extreme. They just get all upset about seeing a dead animal on their plate. It's a gut reaction and has no basis in reality as they refuse to recognise the terrible suffering and exploitation implicit in the dairy industry. And because they just CAN'T live without cheese.
An omni is at least coherent. I think they're sad, but at least they are coherent which vegetarians are not.
But that doesn't mean that one needs to hate vegetarians. I don't respect their decision. But one doesn't really hate everyone whose decisions one doesn't respect, does one ? Hate is a strong strong word.
Responding to Moll Flander's post which said "to know that a vegan ranting at me or putting me down for being veggie would not have made me transition to veganism." Well, when I became vegetarian (I had never even HEARD of veganism before - thank god for the internet which opened my eyes), I became a vegan within a very short time because someone on VB told me I was being a f***ing hypocrite. That really make me think and the next day I was vegan. So that's just to say that some people prefer being told that a spade is spade. I will always be grateful to the person who had the honesty to tell me what they thought of me.
Because omnivores with their claims about being an "animal lover" or respect for dogs and cats but not other animals can't be hypocritical. There's so much more to judge a human on than their diet.Well, I think vegatarians are worse than omnis.
Because there is no logic behind their reasoning and they are hypocritical to the extreme. They just get all upset about seeing a dead animal on their plate. It's a gut reaction and has no basis in reality as they refuse to recognise the terrible suffering and exploitation implicit in the dairy industry. And because they just CAN'T live without cheese.
An omni is at least coherent. I think they're sad, but at least they are coherent which vegetarians are not.
But that doesn't mean that one needs to hate vegetarians. I don't respect their decision. But one doesn't really hate everyone whose decisions one doesn't respect, does one ? Hate is a strong strong word.
Responding to Moll Flander's post which said "to know that a vegan ranting at me or putting me down for being veggie would not have made me transition to veganism." Well, when I became vegetarian (I had never even HEARD of veganism before - thank god for the internet which opened my eyes), I became a vegan within a very short time because someone on VB told me I was being a f***ing hypocrite. That really make me think and the next day I was vegan. So that's just to say that some people prefer being told that a spade is spade. I will always be grateful to the person who had the honesty to tell me what they thought of me.