Omni partner?

Hey hey hello dear veggis.

I was just wondering if any of your partners is an omnivore, or do you all have partners that are vegetarian or vegan like yourself?
Does that sometimes create problems between you?
Do you want to change his/her mind?

My well beloved boyfriend is a meat eater although he doesn't mind cooking with me and eating vegetarian whenever he's with me (which is a lot!). But when we eat out, he eats meat.
What can I say, it's entirely his decision. I would probably prefer if he was vegetarian as it can be easier, but I love him as he is so, so much and don't intend to change him.
I'm not the type to trying to convince anybody to become vegetarian cause I know that never persuaded me when I was still eating meat.

What's your opinion about this?
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My fiance eats a lot of meat. He's a bodybuilder and I am vegan. I make sure that my educational tools are available to him, but I am very aware that he is intelligent and knows what is what, so I do not preach as it wouldn't serve either of us. I can care for myself and make information available, but that's all we can do.
 
... but that's all we can do.

No it isn't.

We all have limits as to how much we care enough to do though.

M'point being soley that recognising we have personal of limits of care and making the quantum leap to our personal limits of care being the ultimate limits it is possible for anyone to care are not the same thing.
 
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I realize this is an old thread but im interested to know if anyone was successful in turning an omni-partner vegan.
Not so much interested in relationships that went vegan together, because that just makes me jealous and want to hold a pillow over my partner's face while he sleeps. Not cool.
So with this said, im struggling. Alot. I communicate that, but its falling on deaf ears.
I figured my last recourse is to find what worked for others, take all tips,tricks,and opinions into consideration, and go from there.
While I think its wonderful that so many people can handle their partner being omni, I have tried for years and I think its getting to me.
 
I'm not sure it's a good idea to expect to "turn" your partner. If you want to stay to together I would think it best to try and come to some sort of arrangement/compromise where he cooks for himself, maybe have separate space in the refrigerator and separate cooking utensils (if that's an issue for you).
 
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I'm not sure it's a good idea to expect to "turn" your partner. If you want to stay to together I would think it best to try and come to some sort of arrangement/compromise where he cooks for himself, maybe have separate space in the refrigerator and separate cooking utensils (if that's an issue for you).
I agree its not realistic to expect to turn him.
Its just way more than a cooking issue.
Im not sure if its experienced the same for other vegans, but if compassion and integrity is a turn-on, nothing less than vegan works.
I guess I need to do some kind of appreciation-list of endearing qualities. Or something.
 
If you want to stay to together I would think it best to try and come to some sort of arrangement/compromise where he cooks for himself, maybe have separate space in the refrigerator and separate cooking utensils (if that's an issue for you).

That would be exactly like coming to a compromise with a kiddy fiddling partner whereby they separately make/store/watch their child porn.

When you feel for the victims it's not about how or where or when people get happily on with their victimising.

It's that people victimise which hurts.

When it comes to the person you most need to care about how you feel it's the "I don't give a **** how you feel" aspect of their refusal to stop victimising that tells you all you need to know.
 
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It's more complicated than that, for me, anyway, when you both start out as omnis and then one changes 30 years in and the other doesn't. Throwing away a 40 year marriage isn't an option for me. Compromise is. I'm sure that doesn't work for most but it does for me.
 
It's more complicated than that, for me, anyway, when you both start out as omnis and then one changes 30 years in and the other doesn't. Throwing away a 40 year marriage isn't an option for me. Compromise is. I'm sure that doesn't work for most but it does for me.

There is no such thing as compromise on an absolute, KLS.

Meat is death and death is an absolute.

Where compromise can't exist the only remaining options are either victory or defeat.

The painfull thing about that being this ...

A vegan victory is a win for the vegan, a win for the victims of the omni and, as we all know or we wouldn't be vegans, it is ultimately a win for the omni him/herself.

That's a win-win-win.

A vegan defeat on the other hand can never be anything better than a lose-lose-lose.

Anytime a vegan fails and calls it 'compromise' they have failed not only their self. They have failed everything and everyone else that they <should> care about too.
 
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It's more complicated than that, for me, anyway, when you both start out as omnis and then one changes 30 years in and the other doesn't. Throwing away a 40 year marriage isn't an option for me. Compromise is. I'm sure that doesn't work for most but it does for me.
I think its great that compromise is an option for you. Im jealous.
I cant even imagine what that would be like.

I think people are going to have different views on this because everyone has a different tolerance to pain.

When I am outside of the home, I can tolerate disconnected people because I am aware that everyone has to wake up when they are ready, otherwise anything you say falls on deaf ears.

When I am inside the home, I feel resentful. It should be my sanctuary, the place where I can find peace and connection. Difficult at best with meat and dairy in the cabinets and fridge. Animal products in the closets, in the bathroom, the prep of them talked about for every holiday.
I hate holidays now.

And I think too that the importance of food in someone's life helps make this decision.
I moved in with my dad briefly a very long time ago to change his diet to one that would help with his severe diabetes.
That meant my diet had to change, I wouldnt dare bring something into the house that would cause him discomfort to see. You just do what you believe is the right thing to do.

Maybe extreme personalities need equally extreme partners.
 
That would be exactly like coming to a compromise with a kiddy fiddling partner whereby they separately make/store/watch their child porn.

When you feel for the victims it's not about how or where or when people get happily on with their victimising.

It's that people victimise which hurts.

When it comes to the person you most need to care about how you feel it's the "I don't give a **** how you feel" aspect of their refusal to stop victimising that tells you all you need to know.
I think I feel closer to what you are saying here, with the exception that I dont view their lack of compassion as a personal affront to me .... but more as the inability to evolve at the same rate.

Makes me sound as if I am calling them stupid.... but do I pretend I am still in the Matrix so that I can maintain my relationship? or do I move forward because anything less is not truly living?

I guess in the end the one responsible for making you happy is you,which doesnt make this easy.
 
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This is not a judgement on anyone else's situation, but I personally could not sleep with the enemy. Having a relative or friend that you have to reach a common ground with is one thing. Being intimate is another - and I could not be intimate with a flesh eater.
 
I would prefer a partner that was veg*an. But I think the most important would be that she could live mostly vegan at home. I would not cook meat for her, as I have never liked handling meat even when I was omni myself, and I can't cook meat (still couldn't when I was omni myself, my kitchen skill became fast much better when I became vegetarian).

But. Since I have a very limited opotunity on a partner because of personal "issues", I do have to see a veg*an partner as a bonus. If I should put that too on the list, I would be single all my life probably. For the moment, I'm very happy single, and planning to stay single, but never know what the future brings. But hopefully I meet a girl that is either veg*an or willing to become a veg*an.
 
It's more complicated than that, for me, anyway, when you both start out as omnis and then one changes 30 years in and the other doesn't. Throwing away a 40 year marriage isn't an option for me. Compromise is. I'm sure that doesn't work for most but it does for me.

Yes, exactly.

I think my hubbie is changing quite a lot regarding his view on animals due to my influence, he had a go at someone for getting a kitten from a breeder recently and there was a news report about the UK badger cull and he was making sarky comments about the badger killers. To be honest I think he is a far better person than me in a lot of ways so I don't see why I should get on my high horse just because I'm vegan and he isn't.
 
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I would prefer a partner that was veg*an. But I think the most important would be that she could live mostly vegan at home. I would not cook meat for her, as I have never liked handling meat even when I was omni myself, and I can't cook meat (still couldn't when I was omni myself, my kitchen skill became fast much better when I became vegetarian).

But. Since I have a very limited opotunity on a partner because of personal "issues", I do have to see a veg*an partner as a bonus. If I should put that too on the list, I would be single all my life probably. For the moment, I'm very happy single, and planning to stay single, but never know what the future brings. But hopefully I meet a girl that is either veg*an or willing to become a veg*an.
I agree, home is where you want to be comfortable.
Hard to be comfortable when 3 meals a day near you have to include dairy,eggs or meat. In this country anyway.
I think you have something to look forward to Mikkel, since you will be creating a relationship from the start as a vegan....and not have a bunch of history with someone that you have to sort through.
Its great to be single too...so stay happy my friend :)
 
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Yes, exactly.

I think my hubbie is changing quite a lot regarding his view on animals due to my influence, he had a go at someone for getting a kitten from a breeder recently and there was a news report about the UK badger cull and he was making sarky comments about the badger killers. To be honest I think he is a far better person than me in a lot of ways so I don't see why I should get on my high horse just because I'm vegan and he isn't.
Seeing the greatness in another person rather than flaws is the foundation of peace, so kudos on your great relationship with your husband.
I think maybe construing being uncomfortable around meat fumes and having to visually experience death and suffering at every meal and having your holidays centered around a dead animal isnt the same as being on a high-horse though....you think?
Maybe im making too much of my atmosphere?
I want to ignore it, I really do.
 
Seeing the greatness in another person rather than flaws is the foundation of peace, so kudos on your great relationship with your husband.
I think maybe construing being uncomfortable around meat fumes and having to visually experience death and suffering at every meal and having your holidays centered around a dead animal isnt the same as being on a high-horse though....you think?
Maybe im making too much of my atmosphere?
I want to ignore it, I really do.

Oh no, we don't have meat in the house as he eats veg/vegan food mostly. I wouldn't be able to put up with that either in my own home, although I do feed my dogs and cats meat.
 
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