- Joined
- Jan 3, 2016
- Reaction score
- 2,068
- Age
- 45
- Lifestyle
- Vegetarian
A - Oppose Factory Farms
Step 1 – NOW oppose some new factory farms at a local level, targeting specific campaigns. Animal Rising is already doing this in the UK. You can give them a donation, or support them directly if you live in the UK.
Step 2 – 2030s? oppose all new factory farms
Step 3 – in next few decades - block imported meat or add tariffs to it, citing support for local farmers
Step 4 – within our lifetime, shut down all existing factory farms (and ban imported meat from factory farms), using mass protest to block their entrance and exits combined with political reform at the same time. We need a higher % vegetarian and sympathetic flexitarians before we can do this.
Use local water and air pollution as part of opposition.
Don’t oppose all meat but say we’re not opposed to high welfare, local farmers for now. If we win, the next generation can take on the eventual fight to ban all animal cruelty (i.e. all meat). Shutting down factory farms is >90% of the meat. Grass-fed beef, hunting etc is only <10%.
B – Provide cheaper, similar alternative
It’s not enough to get vegan burgers and chicken nuggets to equal price at equal taste as people stick to what they know, they need to be 20%-40% cheaper at equal taste so that has to be the goal somehow. It has two parts:
1: Make real meat more expensive by removing subsidies and by government making factory farms pay for their pollution and if people support it eventually a fee on it (fee and dividend rather than tax)
2: Make vegan “meat” cheaper by providing government subsidies, improving the tech and achieving better scale.
Be realistic in that we need vegan pizzas, burgers, hot dogs etc as people won’t give up meat if they have to go to things with quinoa, mushrooms, beans etc instead. Asking people to change from this real meat burger to this vegan one that looks is tastes the same is less of a change, therefore more people will do it. Happy to be proven wrong as I just want to support whatever works to reduce animal suffering.
In summary,
--campaign against factory farms
--make meat alternatives cheaper than real meat
Step 1 – NOW oppose some new factory farms at a local level, targeting specific campaigns. Animal Rising is already doing this in the UK. You can give them a donation, or support them directly if you live in the UK.
Step 2 – 2030s? oppose all new factory farms
Step 3 – in next few decades - block imported meat or add tariffs to it, citing support for local farmers
Step 4 – within our lifetime, shut down all existing factory farms (and ban imported meat from factory farms), using mass protest to block their entrance and exits combined with political reform at the same time. We need a higher % vegetarian and sympathetic flexitarians before we can do this.
Use local water and air pollution as part of opposition.
Don’t oppose all meat but say we’re not opposed to high welfare, local farmers for now. If we win, the next generation can take on the eventual fight to ban all animal cruelty (i.e. all meat). Shutting down factory farms is >90% of the meat. Grass-fed beef, hunting etc is only <10%.
B – Provide cheaper, similar alternative
It’s not enough to get vegan burgers and chicken nuggets to equal price at equal taste as people stick to what they know, they need to be 20%-40% cheaper at equal taste so that has to be the goal somehow. It has two parts:
1: Make real meat more expensive by removing subsidies and by government making factory farms pay for their pollution and if people support it eventually a fee on it (fee and dividend rather than tax)
2: Make vegan “meat” cheaper by providing government subsidies, improving the tech and achieving better scale.
Be realistic in that we need vegan pizzas, burgers, hot dogs etc as people won’t give up meat if they have to go to things with quinoa, mushrooms, beans etc instead. Asking people to change from this real meat burger to this vegan one that looks is tastes the same is less of a change, therefore more people will do it. Happy to be proven wrong as I just want to support whatever works to reduce animal suffering.
In summary,
--campaign against factory farms
--make meat alternatives cheaper than real meat
