Am i wrong?

3axap

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Some of you might not be on my side, hopefully i atleast wouldnt get banned for my views.

So recently i got into a somewhat local vegan community, like 500 people or so.
And while having discussions about different things one of the people were describing how they were arguing with their non-vegan friend about something i thought had an easy answer, but evidently it seems that im wrong.
the subject was: Is it okay to eat an animal' that died of natural causes?

So for the most of my life and years of being vegan i thought that this is an acceptable question to say yes to, because i saw many discussions on reddit talking about it, so i never even thought that this is a debate, because usually most people agree that it is technically still vegan.

Needless to say i was made fun of and frankly clowned on for even suggesting that such thing can be acceptable, and not even for a second a single person in that group had a thought of changing their mind or even considering it, which is just crazy to me because im a person that will always listen to anybody and think about what they said no matter how hot their take is.
It just felt like i was talking to non-vegans about veganism, nobody even cared about what i said, its just like talking to a wall.

Is my stance wrong? am i in the wrong for thinking that a corpse should have less rights than an alive animal?
 
Some of you might not be on my side, hopefully i atleast wouldnt get banned for my views.

So recently i got into a somewhat local vegan community, like 500 people or so.
And while having discussions about different things one of the people were describing how they were arguing with their non-vegan friend about something i thought had an easy answer, but evidently it seems that im wrong.
the subject was: Is it okay to eat an animal' that died of natural causes?

So for the most of my life and years of being vegan i thought that this is an acceptable question to say yes to, because i saw many discussions on reddit talking about it, so i never even thought that this is a debate, because usually most people agree that it is technically still vegan.

Needless to say i was made fun of and frankly clowned on for even suggesting that such thing can be acceptable, and not even for a second a single person in that group had a thought of changing their mind or even considering it, which is just crazy to me because im a person that will always listen to anybody and think about what they said no matter how hot their take is.
It just felt like i was talking to non-vegans about veganism, nobody even cared about what i said, its just like talking to a wall.

Is my stance wrong? am i in the wrong for thinking that a corpse should have less rights than an alive animal?
Hello @3axap
While I will disagree with you that eating an already dead animal is Vegan, I most certainly won’t make fun of you…
In my view eating Any animal or their byproducts is not Vegan…
However, if someone is starving or living in an impoverished environment I would understand if they felt the need to eat an animal that was already dead…
 
Wow, I don't think there should even be a 'right' answer. To me, there is nothing that impacts the animal, and unless you're taking food from it's natural predators, nothing that causes harm. I would consider it as a personal purity thing.
Every living thing is food for someone. Vegans don't consider animals their food--but--people do go vegan with different standards and if someone wanted to only eat say, roadkill, (we have had that Convo here!) and stayed within vegan ethics I would be .... ok with that

I was about 11 or 12 when I read Soylent Green and thought the idea of eating the dead seemed like the only reasonable thing to do--everyone dies, why are we breeding animals just to kill them for food? That was my first introduction to being vegetarian
 
Many vegans take the definition to be a black and white thing - no animal-sourced products can be used or eaten. Regardless of where they came from, hence conversations about say second-hand leather.

However, if we look at the genesis of modern veganism, we find that the motivation has become more about animal rights and liberation. That's because of the direction of the Vegan Society once people like Leslie Cross became influential in the original Vegan Society, and then later discourse and development by animal rights advocates and liberationists. In the very beginning, veganism was mostly the practice of not eating meat and dairy - it was an even more strict form of vegetarianism. Donald Watson and his immediate group thought a purely plant-sourced diet was the healthiest diet and while animal welfare mattered to them, they also thought animal-sourced food was not good for us.

So I guess what I'm saying is that it is possible to argue for whatever stance you want to take about eating already dead animals. But within Leslie Cross's conception, I don't think it would be wrong or not vegan to do that because his real goal was freedom for animals - liberation.