Veganism means not using animals for human purposes. Fundamentally, it's not vegan. However vegans seem to be divided on the issue so others may disagree.
I note that your survey response "Yes, go ahead" implies that you think if this is vegan, you should do it, and if it is not, you should not. I've noticed this (usually implied) viewpoint often in the online vegan community and I would like to challenge the view that whether or not something is vegan is enough to decide whether or not that thing is morally appropriate, or whether we should do it.
Sometimes people in the vegan community remind me of Christians who have to ask their local religious leader how to act in a certain situation because they can't think it out for themselves or have to consult their bible for guidance.
I think something being not vegan and something being morally bad are two different things that happen to be aligned maybe 99% of the time.
From a utalitarian philisophy viewpoint especially, something not vegan is not always morally bad, if it is for the greater good and reduced suffering overall (example: if you could carry out 1 experiment on 1 animal that would cause severe suffering to the animal but would likely lead to a cure for cancer, the experiment would not be vegan, but would be considered morally OK or good within the framework of utalitarian philosophy of the greater good).
The other factor here is where the dog came from. Was it bred and kept in poor conditions before being sold? Or a stray retrained as a guide dog? You might also want to think about the back story.
How good a life can and will you provide to the dog (time without leash, access to the outdoors, time apart from you, time with other dogs).
Is getting a guide dog vegan? No.
Is getting a guide dog morally correct? I don't know.
Should you do it? You do whatever you think best.
I think vegans who are opposed to pets or companion animals are unrealistic and borderline unreasonable, especially since science tells us dogs enjoy loving human families and that cats actually co-evolved with us (fun fact, while dogs were deliberately domesticated the term domestic cat is a misnomer in some regards since they actually chose to co-evolve around humans like rats and raccoons).
Unreasonable? Was that a personal attacks for having a different opinion?
How we choose we to live with pets right now isn't so much my biggest concern, as if we ever become a society where people are vegan by default then this moment we are experiencing right now is a gray area.
That being said, the ideal vegan society, ultimately, would be one where no animals would have to be locked in cages, in tiny urban apartments or dependent on us to feed them like our little slaves.
Looking happy doesn't say a lot as one may also have argued the same about slaves (not long ago) being given a longer breaks than in other plantations, in those days such things would have made the slave-owner an awesome master; but that momentary happiness would not say much beyond that. Every living-being can be conditioned to different standards of living...it's how we survive.
Just ask yourself this: Do you let your pet do whatever he/she wants? Urinate and defecate wherever he feels like? explore nature whenever and wherever? Does he have any challenges in his life? Does he take ownership of his mistakes?
In my humble opinion, we may have grown beyond this concept of pets, we don't need to have pets anymore (we got each other), and our current goal should be to find a painless way to transition them back to independence.
If not for my old dog, I would not even be here.
The ones who can live on their own should just be left the **** alone to figure out how overcome the physical and/or mental deficiencies from generations of interbreeding;
That experiment example is only relevant in another century when we didn't have other options. If its not necessary its not utilitarian, its "tradition" or "ease."
If not for my old dog, I would not even be here. She woke up three of us in a house fire that would've surely taken our lives. She literally saved our lives. She was a rescue from a pound that euthanizes. So what would have been worse, leaving her there to be euthanized, or rescuing her to a loving home?
Why not guide humans? Are humans too friggin greedy we need to use dogs like that? Humans could do a hella better job as blind guide
I think it's good to rescue dogs and other domesticated animals from shelters. Although in the case of guide dogs they have been bred. I could ask the guide dog association if I can have a 'rescued' guide dog but they might just say no. They might not even approve of the fact I'll be feeding the dog vegan dog food.
My guide dog Jilli also saved my life.
What one says means very little to what he does. It's very easy to have an opinion, everyone is entitled to their own, having extreme ideas doesn't make one extreme. I'm being perceived the same way as you are perceived by carnists: as an extremist.
You seem too emotional. I'm just exchanging ideas here, that's the point of a discussion board to exchange ideas, I'm open minded to hear yours so don't shame me for having mine...
Perfectly true on both counts. In the UK the volunteer puppy trainer has the responsibility of going through an enormous tick list to give the puppy experience of encountering a wide range of scenarios. Things like going on a bus and a train.I think they breed them because they have to be breeds with a certain temperament (like labs) and have to be trained as pups.