Health Issues Dry eye, doesn't close properly when sleeping

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As explained in the title - anyone here have experience with this kind of problem?

Solutions I've considered:
- Train my eye to close properly during the daytime. Eye gymnastics, I guess.
- Try to stretch my eye lid a lot, hoping it will get bigger so it will be easier to close.
- Put on some kind of eye patch at night that will force the eye lid shut.
- Laser surgery to make the eye less elliptical, more spherical (round). I'm very near sighted, and IIRC this makes the eyes more elliptical, hence more difficult to close, I assume.
 
I'm nearsighted enough that I've qualified as legally blind without corrective lenses since my preteen years, and my eyes got progressively worse yearly all through my teens, twenties, and thirties before stabilizing. All that to say that I am pretty f***ing nearsighted, and I don't have a problem closing my eyes. Nearsightedness causes the eyes to become elongated inside the head; it doesn't cause "pop" eye - that's a completely different problem.

That being said, I'd suggest you see an optometrist or ophthalmologist about the problem.
 
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Is it just that the eye lid doesn't close proper, or do you have any problems with the tear channel? So it does't produse enough fluid and the eye gets dry.
 
Thanks for the replies, much appreciated.

I did have an infection on that eye over Christmas, so I suppose that could have messed something up. I'm not sure if there is a problem with tear production. Possibly. I've been trying to think of something really sad to see if I could cry a bit, but it doesn't work. Hehe.

I have had the issue with the eye lid not closing for years and years, but the dryness is new.
 
That sounds really uncomfortable. What about using artificial tears for the dryness until you can get to a doctor to see why the eye doesn't close. I tried doing a web search (I'm sure you have, too) but didn't come up with anything relevant. Bell's palsy and stoke were some of the results but, fortunately, doesn't sound like either of those. Hope you figure it out soon and get some relief.
 
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Have you seen an eye doctor? Since you have had the problem with the eye lid for so many years, it's strange that it's started now to be a problem now. So it has perhaps something to do with the infection to do?
 
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I'm nearsighted enough that I've qualified as legally blind without corrective lenses since my preteen years, and my eyes got progressively worse yearly all through my teens, twenties, and thirties before stabilizing. All that to say that I am pretty f***ing nearsighted, and I don't have a problem closing my eyes. Nearsightedness causes the eyes to become elongated inside the head; it doesn't cause "pop" eye - that's a completely different problem.

That being said, I'd suggest you see an optometrist or ophthalmologist about the problem.

This.
 
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Is the humidity very low in your home, especially where you sleep? You could try adding some moisture to the air, if so. I would not do the patch or the eyelid stretching without a doctor advising me to. Moisturizing drops are the first thing I would try.

If you spend time in front of the computer, it's recommended that you look away from the screen every now and then, and focus the vision on a distant point for a few seconds. It's also been shown that people blink less while using computers, so blinking deliberately a few times every now and then might help.

I don't think the laser surgery changes the eye shape, though maybe it does, I don't know much about it. I thought it changed the vision in a different way just on the cornea? I haven't looked into this, I'm just thinking out loud.

Of course I agree with the seeing the ophthalmologist recommendation. I'm also terribly nearsighted, and I think that makes me worry more than I would otherwise when anything goes on with my eyes.
 
I spoke too soon! I woke up in the middle of the night with excruciating pain in my eye. It took a long time and a lot of eye drops and cursing and moaning and waking up Jen before I felt any better. Fortunately, this morning it's feeling pretty good again.

I have some suspicions to what may be causing it. I think I need to stop pulling, pushing and squeezing my cheek so much when I'm thinking hard about something. Maybe it affects the musculature around the eye, or in any case makes it harder to close the eye properly at night, especially when my head is turned in certain positions.

I don't particularly want to see a doctor about it. Unless I have a broken arm or leg or a stab wound or something else obvious with which they have experience, the doctor visits tend to be very frustrating experiences and a waste of time, and the usual advise will be to "take this pill and come back in six weeks if it doesn't get any better".
 
I spoke too soon! I woke up in the middle of the night with excruciating pain in my eye. It took a long time and a lot of eye drops and cursing and moaning and waking up Jen before I felt any better. Fortunately, this morning it's feeling pretty good again.

I have some suspicions to what may be causing it. I think I need to stop pulling, pushing and squeezing my cheek so much when I'm thinking hard about something. Maybe it affects the musculature around the eye, or in any case makes it harder to close the eye properly at night, especially when my head is turned in certain positions.

I don't particularly want to see a doctor about it. Unless I have a broken arm or leg or a stab wound or something else obvious with which they have experience, the doctor visits tend to be very frustrating experiences and a waste of time, and the usual advise will be to "take this pill and come back in six weeks if it doesn't get any better".

Even if you're not happy about seeing a specialist, I urge you to see one. Experiencing severe pain in an eye is not normal. Eyes are too precious.
 
Sorry to hear this and while I understand your frustration with doctors, having experienced frustration with them on more than one occasion myself, I agree with shyvas. You don't want to mess around too much when it comes to your eyesight. I do hope you are able to get some resolution to this problem.

Since the drops seemed to help initially, do you have any OTC eye drops that come in gel form? Maybe something with a little more substance, that you can use before bedtime, would help if it really is just dry eye?
I use this and it helps my dry eyes.
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IS, I hate going to doctors too, but with intense eye pain there are a few dangerous things that they really should rule out. Is it dryness from your eye being open that's causing the pain that the drops help? If so it's not AS worrying.

My brother's eyes have never closed well; his eye doctor taught him to blink, and at times his eyes are (creepily may I say) open while he sleeps. As a kid and still, apparently. After he had lasix for his myopia, the dryness worsened, and he now takes a prescribed oral med for dry eyes that helps him a lot. Plus drops throughout the day and good sunglasses.

There are certain nutrients that help eye health, like lutein; you could look for ways to incorporate that.

This link seems as if it has some good information on self eye care.

"Sunglasses are a great fashion accessory, but their most important job is to protect your eyes from the sun’s ultraviolet rays. When purchasing sunglasses, look for ones that block out 99 to 100 percent of both UV-A and UV-B radiation.

Give your eyes a rest. If you spend a lot of time at the computer or focusing on any one thing, you sometimes forget to blink and your eyes can get fatigued. Try the 20-20-20 rule: Every 20 minutes, look away about 20 feet in front of you for 20 seconds. This can help reduce eyestrain." http://www.nei.nih.gov/healthyeyes/eyehealthtips.asp
 
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I spoke too soon! I woke up in the middle of the night with excruciating pain in my eye. It took a long time and a lot of eye drops and cursing and moaning and waking up Jen before I felt any better. Fortunately, this morning it's feeling pretty good again.

I have some suspicions to what may be causing it. I think I need to stop pulling, pushing and squeezing my cheek so much when I'm thinking hard about something. Maybe it affects the musculature around the eye, or in any case makes it harder to close the eye properly at night, especially when my head is turned in certain positions.

I don't particularly want to see a doctor about it. Unless I have a broken arm or leg or a stab wound or something else obvious with which they have experience, the doctor visits tend to be very frustrating experiences and a waste of time, and the usual advise will be to "take this pill and come back in six weeks if it doesn't get any better".

I'm sorry you don't feel better afterall :( However I echo everybody else - excruciating eye pain is absolutely not something to ignore. I don't think that pulling on your cheek sounds like a likely cause - but I'm not a doctor so I'm only guessing of course.

My experience is that with things like this - your doctor is likely to be helpful (assuming you go to a British GP?). Doctors can be unhelpful with vague symptoms - a pain in your leg, headaches, feeling sick, feeling dizzy, feeling tired... I guess there are lots of things it could be, including non-medical things (stress, diet, being very busy/active, etc), and they get these symptoms a lot and they're usually nothing/nothing serious. But with something quite specific like you've described, my experience is your GP will just refer you to a specialist, who will have a lot of experience and knowledge.

GPs vary from person to person - so if you don't like your current GP ask to see somebody else in your practice or even move practices, and if you don't think your GP is being helpful - say so. Say what you would like. Explain what you want. Ask them to explain what they're telling you.

Another thing from personal experience is that most people are happy to take what the GP prescribes and not worry about why it works - I sometimes ask a lot of questions about what is the problem and why my GP is prescribing/suggesting a particular thing. My experience is once they see you're interested, they're happy to explain, and everything makes a lot more sense, the doctors experience is a lot more pleasant and a lot less confusing/annoying.

I really hope you go to the doctor and your eye starts feeling better, IS.
 
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Thanks everyone for your consideration and advise. Well, I suppose I might get an appointment then.

My GP is alright, and yes, it's an NHS one. Often she's quite busy though, so there is a long waiting list, and I often opt to see one of her less busy colleagues. I think with this issue I won't do that.
 
And you haven't hurt your eye? Like got an scratch on it for some time ago?

I got a branch in my right eye May 2011. And still have problems with it, and only on nighttimes. I've seen a eye doctor, and he told me it's normal that such injuries can take a really long time to heal.
 
And you haven't hurt your eye? Like got an scratch on it for some time ago?

I got a branch in my right eye May 2011. And still have problems with it, and only on nighttimes. I've seen a eye doctor, and he told me it's normal that such injuries can take a really long time to heal.
Sorry to hear that! No, I don't think I've suffered any injury like that.
 
I've had bad eye injuries, and while I tend to not go to the doctor for a lot of things, my eyes are one thing where I will not take any risks.

If the surface of your eye is dry, the eye can adhere to your eyelid and cause tears (injuries, not saline water) of the cornea when you open your eyelid. That can result in infections, not just pain, and infections, in the worst case, can result in loss of vision.

IOW, take this seriously.
 
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