Alcohol - vegan or not?

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I don't drink alcohole, so I never have to deal with that question. But I just wonder how others thinks about alcohole.

Do you only drink vegan alcohole, or do you make an exception? Is it different from what you are buying yourself from the store, get served from others or buy out on bars?

Do you only avoid things like milk, egg, honney, or do you also avoid carmine (if they are used in alcohole, I have no clue), filtered through gelatine or other animal ingrediences?
 
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As far as practical and possible ... yes :D

There's a very handy website called www.barnivore.com that can tell you in a few seconds if that beer that is on sale in the supermarket is vegan friendly or not. So if I encounter a new beer, I always check that.

Rule of thumb ... English beer ... bad ... German beer ... good (That one is always a safe bet, since beer brewed in Germany had to be vegan by law since about 500 years).

Some things are easy to know ... Bailey's has cream, mead has honey, and Campari has carmine. Most other spirits are vegan friendly, but it is always better to check. I typically either use replacements (e.g. Aperol instead of Campari) or simply do without the stuff. So no more Bailey's for me....

Where it is difficult for me is wine ... I confess that I still have about 100+ bottles of wine that have been in my wine rack for the last decade or longer and most of those were produced using non-vegan ingredients.

To explain ... I had been "collecting" wines at home since the 1990's ... Collecting meaning that if I found a good wine, e.g. by checking the awards that are given by Italian food magazines every year like "Best wine below 15 EUR", then I would buy a box or two of that and store it, instead of just going to the shop and buying one bottle to drink right now. That way I had built up a little collection of affordable but decent wines from which I could always make a choice. Unfortunately, only very recently have vintners started to produce wines without using animal ingredients in the "clearing" process. There were the odd "organic wines" before that that did not use it, but every wine you would encounter in the supermarket 10 years ago would be very likely not vegan friendly.

So ... what to do? I have not bought any new wines since going vegan, and the ones I have are still in storage at a friends place in Germany since we moved to Asia 3 years ago. I might just start giving those away to friends and start collecting vegan wines, if I do find nice ones.

Best regards,
Andy
 
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It's quite easy here in the UK as the supermarkets label wine vegan or you can check online. I don't go out to bars much anymore, but when I did I used my phone to use Barnivore, as Andy mentioned.
 
I use an app called VegeTipple which pulls the data straight from Barnivore. I generally find that bottled/keg beer=good cask=bad. I always check and if I can't find the answer I will stick to something I know. I don't drink wine so can't be much help there.

I have never had campari but didn't realise it wasn't vegan so thanks Andy.
 
I meant to say yesterday that I've read that alcoholic drinks in bars are really expensive in Norway? :eek:

ETA - just realised you said that you don't drink anyway.:D
 
I generally find that bottled/keg beer=good cask=bad

Doesn't work for most English beers, unfortunately, e.g. Guinness (I know, Irish, but for me more or less the same stuff), as they typically contain the nasty ingredients, regardless whether in bottle or cask.
 
Doesn't work for most English beers, unfortunately, e.g. Guinness (I know, Irish, but for me more or less the same stuff), as they typically contain the nasty ingredients, regardless whether in bottle or cask.
Soon you can have your Guinness! :) They recognized the problem, and have developed a new filtration system with no animal products. In by the end of the year. :)

By LIAM STACK

NOVEMBER 4, 2015

"Guinness, the Irish stout that once famously advertised itself under the slogan “Guinness is good for you,” took a step this week to inject 21st-century food culture into its 256-year-old product. Guinness is going vegan.

The company announced on Monday that starting at the end of 2016, its beer will no longer contain trace amounts of fish bladder, an integral part of its filtration process."
Guinness Is Going Vegan
 
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Soon you can have your Guinness! :) They recognized the problem, and have developed a new filtration system with no animal products. In by the end of the year. :)

By LIAM STACK

NOVEMBER 4, 2015

"Guinness, the Irish stout that once famously advertised itself under the slogan “Guinness is good for you,” took a step this week to inject 21st-century food culture into its 256-year-old product. Guinness is going vegan.

The company announced on Monday that starting at the end of 2016, its beer will no longer contain trace amounts of fish bladder, an integral part of its filtration process."
Guinness Is Going Vegan

I remember having Guinness when I was a teenager. It is so bitter that I couldn't possibly drink it nowadays.:D
 
Oh I only like it half and half with champagne oh yum. My husband likes it, so is waiting for the retiring of the fish bladder yuck. :)
That's a Black Velvet cocktail. :) Quite popular... not with me, I love Guinness as is.... well, not now.... **sigh** I miss Guinness.... WTF is taking them so long to go vegan??? LOL
 
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LOL i am no shape or form getting irish bailey's cream anyhow, 20 something years ago i was a teen and I decided since i was home alone to try it.. I took a big shot glass full of a surprised, for several hours till the next morning my sinuses were cleared for several hours or so after that... since then i never touched it, because too strong.
 
I meant to say yesterday that I've read that alcoholic drinks in bars are really expensive in Norway? :eek:

ETA - just realised you said that you don't drink anyway.:D

It is. If you are in the right place, 0.4 l of beer can cost you about $12. I have no clue what drinks costs, it's so many years ago since I bought something to drink in a bar. :P
 
Doesn't work for most English beers, unfortunately, e.g. Guinness (I know, Irish, but for me more or less the same stuff), as they typically contain the nasty ingredients, regardless whether in bottle or cask.

to clarify - If it's in a cask I dont even bother looking it up, if its a bottle I do haha.
 
Isinglass: The fishy ingredient in beer that bothers vegetarians - BBC News
"Nobody really wants to advertise that they filter their beer through dead fish."

Ask somebody to list the classic ingredients of beer and the chances are they will come back with: hops, malt, barley and water, with a bit of yeast thrown in for good measure.

It is unlikely the swim bladder of fish would be on the list, but isinglass - a gelatine made using the organ - is in fact very likely to be in your average pint.

Used since the 19th Century as a fining agent to make beer clear, bright and more attractive to drinkers, the odourless added extra is used widely by brewers, from mass-produced brands to small microbreweries.

Its prevalence poses a problem for vegetarians and vegans, many of whom do not realise they need to tread carefully when ordering at the bar.