A New Framing of Being Vegetarian & Vegan

[Jamie in Chile]

This is loosely related to some of my previous thoughts on similar topics, I wanted to get your thoughts on it.

I think being vegetarian - and perhaps doing a few key vegan things as well like not wearing leather or eating factory-farmed eggs - is something that everyone should do as a moral baseline. Eating meat is wrong, and you shouldn't ever do it in the same way that you should not commit crimes like stealing or arson. It's not acceptable to say that you only commit arson once a week, and meat is the same.

Being vegan is more like aspirational. It is like giving money to charities, actively supporting social justice causes, recycling absolutely everything, or being extremely nice and never once losing your temper. Better if you can do it some or most of the time, but shouldn't be expected or considered wrong if you don't do it, and doesn't seem right to come under a lot of pressure to do it.

 

[1956]

This is loosely related to some of my previous thoughts on similar topics, I wanted to get your thoughts on it.

I think being vegetarian - and perhaps doing a few key vegan things as well like not wearing leather or eating factory-farmed eggs - is something that everyone should do as a moral baseline. Eating meat is wrong, and you shouldn't ever do it in the same way that you should not commit crimes like stealing or arson. It's not acceptable to say that you only commit arson once a week, and meat is the same.

Being vegan is more like aspirational. It is like giving money to charities, actively supporting social justice causes, recycling absolutely everything, or being extremely nice and never once losing your temper. Better if you can do it some or most of the time, but shouldn't be expected or considered wrong if you don't do it, and doesn't seem right to come under a lot of pressure to do it.

You are certainly entitled to your own opinion @Jamie in Chile - but I and Many other people manage to remain Vegan without feeling any pressure.
In one sense it is Aspirational - simply because so many of the products that are part of Everyday life are not Vegan! However, when it comes to food, clothing and personal hygiene products being Vegan is Not all that difficult… It’s more of a matter of is My taste More important than the Life of an Animal… For me, the answer is Always that the life of the Animal is More important.

 

[4silva]

This is loosely related to some of my previous thoughts on similar topics, I wanted to get your thoughts on it.

I think being vegetarian - and perhaps doing a few key vegan things as well like not wearing leather or eating factory-farmed eggs - is something that everyone should do as a moral baseline. Eating meat is wrong, and you shouldn't ever do it in the same way that you should not commit crimes like stealing or arson. It's not acceptable to say that you only commit arson once a week, and meat is the same.

Being vegan is more like aspirational. It is like giving money to charities, actively supporting social justice causes, recycling absolutely everything, or being extremely nice and never once losing your temper. Better if you can do it some or most of the time, but shouldn't be expected or considered wrong if you don't do it, and doesn't seem right to come under a lot of pressure to do it.

I 100% agree with the premise--but it is not vegan.
Plant foods will never win over omnivore diets if they don't become normalized, and for most people, vegan is far from the top of their concerns. There are many many concerns.
Many vegans seem upset over Kevin Bacons new ad campaign, but to me, it can do more than any 'meat is murder' PETA ad