Karma

[g0rph]

A great example of karma...

Virginia father of 5 killed by bear falling from tree during hunting accident

A Virginia father of five has died after being struck by a bear that fell out of a tree during a hunting trip.

www.denver7.com

Any more?

 

[Deleted member 20918]

A great example of karma...

Virginia father of 5 killed by bear falling from tree during hunting accident

A Virginia father of five has died after being struck by a bear that fell out of a tree during a hunting trip.

www.denver7.com

Any more?

With so much animal suffering news, this is very good news. Thanks for posting it.

 

[g0rph]

With so much animal suffering news, this is very good news. Thanks for posting it.

Not sure about "very good news" in light of the fact a person has died leaving grieving family and friends, but it's certainly karma.

 

[Deleted member 20918]

Not sure about "very good news" in light of the fact a person has died leaving grieving family and friends, but it's certainly karma.

It is very good news because he is not going to be brutally killing anymore animals for his thrills.

 

[LoreD]

I am always surprised by people who only go outdoors to shoot animals being described as "avid outdoorsman".

 

[fakei]

Unless he had a last moment epiphany that removed his ignorance he may return for the next life with the same inclination.

 

[LoreD]

Unless he had a last moment epiphany that removed his ignorance he may return for the next life with the same inclination.

Actually, most of the reincarnation religions believe that you come back as the being that was mistreated. A bully comes back to be bullied. The hunter is reincarnated as the hunted., etc..

 

[g0rph]

Unless he had a last moment epiphany that removed his ignorance he may return for the next life with the same inclination.

Except we only get one life. Just like all beings.

 

[fakei]

Actually, most of the reincarnation religions believe that you come back as the being that was mistreated. A bully comes back to be bullied. The hunter is reincarnated as the hunted., etc..

Not knowing the reason, we would feel sorry for the victim that we wouldn't have minded seeing chastised as an agressor in the previous life. In that case maybe it is better to feel sorry for the agressor knowing he is following a path of ignorance that will bring him suffering in the future and save ourselves the bad outcome of being taken by negative emotions.

 

[fakei]

Except we only get one life. Just like all beings.

There is only one life, we are all part of it.

 

[g0rph]

There is only one life, we are all part of it.

I prefer to take a more rational view based on what we actually know rather than what sounds like a metaphysical pantheistic concept.

Multiple consciousnesses, personalities, are born and on a cosmic time-scale, in the blink of an eye, die.

 

[fakei]

I prefer to take a more rational view based on what we actually know rather than what sounds like a metaphysical pantheistic concept.

From a non dualist perspective it is really irrelevant whether the consciousness experiences reincarnation or not because at the end of the day it is part of the illusion.

Multiple consciousnesses, personalities, are born and on a cosmic time-scale, in the blink of an eye, die.

Multiple conscious personalities, that like you say have no real existence, but only one intelect that is real.

 

[g0rph]

From a non dualist perspective it is really irrelevant whether the consciousness experiences reincarnation or not because at the end of the day it is part of the illusion.


Multiple conscious personalities, that like you say have no real existence, but only one intelect that is real.

Mkay. If you say so.
Personally I'll stick to reality thanks...

 

[No Longer Active]

This thread is a classic example of why non-vegans don't like vegans. Gloating over a hunter who has been killed is no better than gloating over a family member who eats meat being killed!

 

[Tom L.]

Quite some time ago, someone was publicly raked over the coals when he proudly posted a picture of himself posing with a male lion he had shot. What about the animals who lived because the lion had been killed? Had the lion lived, it undoubtedly would have been killing and eating wildebeests, other species of antelopes, zebras, etc.

 

[silva]

Quite some time ago, someone was publicly raked over the coals when he proudly posted a picture of himself posing with a male lion he had shot. What about the animals who lived because the lion had been killed? Had the lion lived, it undoubtedly would have been killing and eating wildebeests, other species of antelopes, zebras, etc.

If I could justify killing a lion to save his food supply I feel being anything but a fruitarian would be hypocritical.
Lions do what lions need. Prey animals know they're prey, and carnivores have struggles of their own.
Unless a human is being threatened by another they have zero need to kill. A lion doesn't have that choice.

 

[fakei]

Quite some time ago, someone was publicly raked over the coals when he proudly posted a picture of himself posing with a male lion he had shot. What about the animals who lived because the lion had been killed? Had the lion lived, it undoubtedly would have been killing and eating wildebeests, other species of antelopes, zebras, etc.

And then killing the hunters would be justified to save the lives of the hunted animals, and killing the hunters of hunters to save the hunters and so on, and that's pretty much how one becomes the enemy he is trying to fight.

 

[g0rph]

Quite some time ago, someone was publicly raked over the coals when he proudly posted a picture of himself posing with a male lion he had shot. What about the animals who lived because the lion had been killed? Had the lion lived, it undoubtedly would have been killing and eating wildebeests, other species of antelopes, zebras, etc.

Remove humans from the equation and the lions, zebras, wildebeests come to equilibrium.

The removal of predator species is what gives deer, elk, moose hunters the excuse to do what they do, and they have a point....
Here in Sweden, deer and Moose would destroy the ecosystem if their population was left unchecked...because the wolves have all but been eradicated.

I would personally favour contraceptive darting or something else non-lethal, but still.

 

[fakei]

Remove humans from the equation and the lions, zebras, wildebeests come to equilibrium.

The removal of predator species is what gives deer, elk, moose hunters the excuse to do what they do, and they have a point....
Here in Sweden, deer and Moose would destroy the ecosystem if their population was left unchecked...because the wolves have all but been eradicated.

I would personally favour contraceptive darting or something else non-lethal, but still.

I'm not an expert on the issue, but is difficult to believe they would destroy the ecosystem, unless it is an ecosystem already made dysfunctional by human intervention. Herbivore population is limited by food supply. In my country they would probably come in hand to clean the woods and prevent fires.

 

[fakei]

Also, it seems hunters are also culling wolves.

Hunters shoot dead 54 wolves in Sweden’s largest ever cull

Scientists warn that wolf numbers not large enough to sustain healthy population

www.theguardian.com

Hunters always find a pretext to kill animals.