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What are your thoughts on this? To me it seems quite hypocritical to go out and buy dead animals to feed your cat but I don't know. I've seen 2 vegans (influencers) online who have cats and feed them non vegan food. Hmm. Thoughts?? If I were to get a cat (as a vegan) and feed him/her non vegan food would this make me a total hypocrite?
 

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What are your thoughts on this? To me it seems quite hypocritical to go out and buy dead animals to feed your cat but I don't know. I've seen 2 vegans (influencers) online who have cats and feed them non vegan food. Hmm. Thoughts?? If I were to get a cat (as a vegan) and feed him/her non vegan food would this make me a total hypocrite?
How I look at this-
The majority of usual meat based cat foods are not near optimal, in fact they're largely crap. I've defended this as being the by products of human meat consumption, so not really being all that responsible for additional animal deaths
Cats being domestic have no real prey, and if outside do real damage to the birds and small mammals they kill.
Typical cat food is fortified with taurine anyway--does it not contain enough formulated vitamins?
Pros: Cheap.
Cons: Not good nutritionally, but being the norm, it's easier to monitor

Vegan cat food. I don't have any personal experience, or know anyone who does in real life. We do have members who advocate for it, and have vegan cats doing very well. I would suggest looking up those threads, taking them with a grain of salt so to speak, as they can be heated!
It's not a cats 'natural' diet--it needs to be properly mixed in order to ensure the nutrients are bio-available>cats need taurine and vit A preformulated, and other things--I think a certain mix of aminos? or added aminos?
Anyway. What has always concerned was the ability to afford to have them monitored, and the worry of urinary issues, and other ills. I"ve dealt with so many cancers in my own cats, I can no longer use these as excuses. The typical dry and canned food, and I have always bought some pricier foods, are really far from a cats natural diet, and don't offer the proper nutrition

Of course theres all the chemical we live with that have an even greater effect on the small respiratory system of cats. All the off gassing of carper and treated laminate flooring.
 
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I would not call anyone feeding animals meat hypocrites. We do the best we can to provide for the far too many homeless
I would call someone buying an animal from a breeder a hypocrite, at least in any country where there are so many homeless
 

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Cats are carnivores. Their digestive system does not work properly with plant based food so in all honesty, I would say that it is cruel to feed them "vegan". If an individual cannot face feeding a cat meat or fish then it is probably better to choose another species as a pet. Dogs can be moved onto a very successful vegetarian diet but I would recommend getting as much professional information as possible. I have a dog and a cat. My dog is fresh food fed - she's has raw meat which I chop up myself (but a local butcher would undoubtedly mince meat for you and you could portion it). My cat has tinned tuna or shellfish. Both have the occasional cooked egg. I wouldn't recommend any of the kibbles or most of the wet pet foods. I was a Medical Biochemist with a friend who worked for one of the pet food companies - she had a lot of knowledge on the health problems relating to these processed foods and described it as feeding your little children on a permanent diet of burgers, fried chicken, pizza ... Ugh. I feed my visiting foxes on raw minced meat but they will also eat fruit and some veggies. Definitely better to work out what you can cope with before you get a pet :)
 

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Cats are carnivores. Their digestive system does not work properly with plant based food so in all honesty, I would say that it is cruel to feed them "vegan". If an individual cannot face feeding a cat meat or fish then it is probably better to choose another species as a pet. Dogs can be moved onto a very successful vegetarian diet but I would recommend getting as much professional information as possible. I have a dog and a cat. My dog is fresh food fed - she's has raw meat which I chop up myself (but a local butcher would undoubtedly mince meat for you and you could portion it). My cat has tinned tuna or shellfish. Both have the occasional cooked egg. I wouldn't recommend any of the kibbles or most of the wet pet foods. I was a Medical Biochemist with a friend who worked for one of the pet food companies - she had a lot of knowledge on the health problems relating to these processed foods and described it as feeding your little children on a permanent diet of burgers, fried chicken, pizza ... Ugh. I feed my visiting foxes on raw minced meat but they will also eat fruit and some veggies. Definitely better to work out what you can cope with before you get a pet :)
Tuna and shellfish should only be as rare treats. Not only nutritionally incomplete, and mercury, shellfish can deplete other nutrients.
I researched this when trying to appease a cat who wouldn't eat, and found Trader Joes tuna for cats.
I suppose cooked rabbit and chicken may be the most nutritionally complete foods, but how many vegans would do this for cats? I could not
 

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Tuna and shellfish should only be as rare treats. Not only nutritionally incomplete, and mercury, shellfish can deplete other nutrients.
I researched this when trying to appease a cat who wouldn't eat, and found Trader Joes tuna for cats.
I suppose cooked rabbit and chicken may be the most nutritionally complete foods, but how many vegans would do this for cats? I could not
Shellfish indeed should be used as a special treat :) but tuna in spring water, and other fish like cod, haddock etc are fine. I think it is an awful dilemma for a Vegan in accepting that some species are Carnivores end of story. That's why I completely understand the difficulties ... A close friend has been Vegan for thirty years, they have cats, her husband feeds them now but her two sons used to feed them as all rejected the Vegan diet. I am Vegetarian - I do feed my babies but sometimes the smell turns my tummy :(
 

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Cats are natural carnivores...
I hope everyone understands that--however-- with the usual choices, money and time constraints, what is a domestic cats best option?
I'm truly betting on lab grown meats myself
 
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I'm just kinda wondering why vegans choose to get cats when they don't have to, in other words, buy dead animals to feed them (which they clearly need). This is where i believe it seems a bit hypocritical..in a way.
 

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I'm just kinda wondering why vegans choose to get cats when they don't have to, in other words, buy dead animals to feed them (which they clearly need). This is where i believe it seems a bit hypocritical..in a way.
I have a dog and two cats, all of which I had before becoming vegan. I do feel hypocritical. Once they are no longer around, I am unlikely to have another.
I am reading up on vegan pet foods, and I have seen the link here to an Australian brand. I think the dog will be okay, but cats...hmmm.
 

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I'm just kinda wondering why vegans choose to get cats when they don't have to, in other words, buy dead animals to feed them (which they clearly need). This is where i believe it seems a bit hypocritical..in a way.
I'm not sure. Naturally-vegan pets are available in shelters, waiting for homes, and the House Rabbit Society advocates for the rabbits who get sold to be Easter presents (and then dropped off at shelters when their owners finally grasp that they can't thrive cooped up in a cage, and have to be watched carefully when they're out in the house because their gnawing can be destructive). Guinea pigs are also vegan, I think- I've never had one. The other commonly-available rodent pets are vegan or nearly so- but they often don't live long enough to need adoption, even with the best care.

I don't think hedgehogs are vegan. I don't know about baby chicks (I don't think they sell these as pets anymore); kind of a rude awakening (very literally) if someone winds up with a male.