Thoughts on Seaspiracy on Netflix?

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Haven't seen it, watched the trailer... apart from a cathartic tribute to the fish idk why it would be needed for anybody to go vegan... what is needed is a more 24/7 movement of people actively challenging people (in gentle ways) to go vegan
 
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Why don,'t we see more like seaspiricy on.the televisionprogrammes.I see fatr to much non vegan ,pro meat/ fish eaters advertisements there. It is time we see vegam advertisements and movies there
 

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We are also discussing Seaspiracy in the bottom trawling thread.

Just saw this. Maybe the most damning criticism of Seaspiracy .

 

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This criticism usually comes after a documentary. The question of why the filmmakers didn't cover ALL the reasons why the oceans are dying. The answer is that the problem is too big for one documentary.

I have watched documentaries on plastic pollution, oil spills, whaling, cruise ships, invasive species from aquariums, Sea Shepherd, Greenpeace, trawling, bycatch, heavy metal pollution, overfishing, global warming, trafficking, subsistence fishing, etc. You could watch hundreds of hours of documentaries about the affects of humans on the oceans, and still only have scratched the surface.
 
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One of my biggest issues with the flexitarian, pescatarian movement is that they don't actually reduce their consumption of animal products. They just up their consumption of another animal product. Instead of 10 lbs of meat, chicken, pork; they buy 10 lbs of fish, scallops, shrimp, etc. And the vegetarians usually just increase their consumption of eggs and dairy. There really isn't any net gain for the planet.

Animal agriculture is the biggest driver of climate change, but draining the oceans of all wildlife is equally damaging.
 
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not sure if there is such a thing as a pescatarian movement.
But I don't think its a fair generalization to say that flexatarians up their consumption of animal products.

the label flexatrain can fit many different types of people. I think as a description for a diet it starts with the idea of eating less meat and more plants. I think it also includes the idea of eating healthier foods and less processed foods.

this is the definition of a flexatarian: a person who has a primarily vegetarian diet but occasionally eats meat or fish.

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The Flexitarian Diet is a style of eating that encourages mostly plant-based foods while allowing meat and other animal products in moderation. It's more flexible than fully vegetarian or vegan diets.

I put in the italics.

I also might go out on a limb and say that any diet that eschews meat eating is better for a person's health and the environment.

However.... you can find many "health experts" that include in their recommendations things like 2 servings of fish a week. If a person who is becoming flexatarian stops eating other things but does increase his fish intake, then you have a point. I feel its more likely that they keep their seafood intake low. Almost all the recommendations are not to exceed two servings of fish a week due to mercury and other toxins, if for no the reason.
 
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not sure if there is such a thing as a pescatarian movement.
But I don't think its a fair generalization to say that flexatarians up their consumption of animal products.

the label flexatrain can fit many different types of people. I think as a description for a diet it starts with the idea of eating less meat and more plants. I think it also includes the idea of eating healthier foods and less processed foods.

this is the definition of a flexatarian: a person who has a primarily vegetarian diet but occasionally eats meat or fish.

or this
The Flexitarian Diet is a style of eating that encourages mostly plant-based foods while allowing meat and other animal products in moderation. It's more flexible than fully vegetarian or vegan diets.

I put in the italics.

I also might go out on a limb and say that any diet that eschews meat eating is better for a person's health and the environment.

However.... you can find many "health experts" that include in their recommendations things like 2 servings of fish a week. If a person who is becoming flexatarian stops eating other things but does increase his fish intake, then you have a point. I feel its more likely that they keep their seafood intake low. Almost all the recommendations are not to exceed two servings of fish a week due to mercury and other toxins, if for no the reason.


I've found that most people will just replace one thing with another. If they reduce red meat; they replace it with chicken, cheese, or eggs, or fish.

NOAA Fisheries reports increase in seafood consumption and landings