If you were never born, would you even be aware of it?
Scott Joplin was never born. There was never even a “you” to be born. There was never a “you” to be aware of it. There was never an “I” to say, “I wouldn't ...” And there was never an “I” to say, “I'm glad I was.”I wouldn't, of course, but I'm glad I was.
Would it be better for whom?Many animals wouldn't exist at all if they hadn't been bred in order to provide something for us. Would it have been better if they had never existed in the first place?
Thanks for your answer. I don't think you can assume that they are all tortured. Regards greenhouse gas emissions, I have heard those claims I was wrong about veganism. Let them eat meat (but farm it right) | George Monbiot | Opinion | The GuardianYes. Yes it would be better if they had not existed. To be brought into the world for the sole purpose of being tortured and killed, treated as an object for food is not much of a life. Also, if there weren't so many "food animals" we'd have a lot less greenhouse gas emissions. Did you know that animal ag is a main driver of climate change?
Oh noes an Opinion piece from the Guardian! Whatever will I do? LOL!Thanks for your answer. I don't think you can assume that they are all tortured. Regards greenhouse gas emissions, I have heard those claims I was wrong about veganism. Let them eat meat (but farm it right) | George Monbiot | Opinion | The Guardian
If Vegans Replaced Plants With Insects, They'd Harm Fewer Animals | HuffPost
I'm pretty sure you're right, he is a troll because he just rated my post "agree" then went right on back to making statements about how he likes his steak treated kindly.Over and over again I am impressed with the quality of the members of this forum.
The question that Scott posed is one that is really a troll like question. That he is still here and responding makes me believe that he is not a troll.
And the members here don't get freaked out but just calmly and patiently try to answer the question.
Nowadays, I don't really appreciate the "hypothetical" philosophical question. Although to be honest there were many a night I spent in the Freshman dorms stoned out of my mind trying to figure this kind of stuff out.
"Would it have been better if they had never existed in the first place?"
This is an unanswerable question. How could it be better or worse if they never existed?
I suppose you are asking from the animal's point of view. If they never existed they have no point of view. I guess it comes down to is a short life better than no life at all. All other things being equal, you would have to say no. But take the life of a typical chicken, broiler or layer, that life is a living hell.
Trolls like this kind of hypothetical question. It either has no answer or no good answer. Gets people discussing something that is ultimately pointless and/or useless.
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