So This Is Why Everyone’s So Hyped About Oat Milk

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We don't seem to have Oatly readily available here but I did find this Canadian brand the other day and can't wait to try it, haven't yet. Will let you know when I do. Has anyone here tried it?

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I haven't had that one. I have had Oatly. But just once. The carton is about $1 more than most other brands. I had gotten a bunch of coupons for Planet Earth and tried all their versions: Chocolate; vanilla; and plain. (i think). Looking at the grocer's shelf there are also different levels of fat in the brands.

Something that the article discussed is the importance of getting organic oat milk because baby oat plants end up swimming in Round-Up. ( same as regular soybeans)
 
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I have only ever bought oatmilk once (it was chocolate). To me I see little reason to buy it when you can make it sooo much easier. A high speed blender and a 1 to 4 ratio oats to water will do it, or for a regular blender a nutmilk bag for sieving. Which reminds me, I should make some more oat milk, its been awhile.
 

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I recently picked up a container of shelf-stable, non-dairy Trader Joe's Oat Milk. The ingredients are water and hydrolyzed oats. Can someone explain what the hydrolyzing process entails and whether it is vegan and wholesome? Thanks.
 
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I get oat milk for my son to make his smoothies with. It tends to have more calories than all the others. Myself, I like soy milk in my oatmeal (really the only time I use any plant milk of any kind). Not as good for the environment, I guess, but I don't really want oats on oats, if that makes any sense. :/
 
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I get oat milk for my son to make his smoothies with. It tends to have more calories than all the others. Myself, I like soy milk in my oatmeal (really the only time I use any plant milk of any kind). Not as good for the environment, I guess, but I don't really want oats on oats, if that makes any sense. :/

There was some kind of agreement with quaker oats and the dairy industry that Quaker just got out of. I suppose the dairy industry paid Quaker to say use milk. Now The directions for quaker oats says to use quaker oat beverage to make your morning oats.
 
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I get oat milk for my son to make his smoothies with. It tends to have more calories than all the others. Myself, I like soy milk in my oatmeal (really the only time I use any plant milk of any kind). Not as good for the environment, I guess, but I don't really want oats on oats, if that makes any sense. :/

I don't think that soybean cultivation is worse for the environment than oat cultivation. According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization, soybeans and oats have approximately the same water requirements: http://www.fao.org/3/s2022e/s2022e02.htm#2.2.1 influence of crop type on the daily crop water needs

Soybean cultivation is only "bad" in the sense that 98% of soybean meal is used for animal feed (per the Wisconsin Soybean Association: http://www.wisoybean.org/news/soybean_facts.php ), and feeding soybeans to livestock animals is inefficient - a waste of food resources.

According to the University of Illinois, it takes about 6 lbs. of feed to produce 1 lb. of beef, 3.5 lbs. of feed to produce 1 lb. of pork, and 2 lbs. of feed to produce 1 lb. of poultry: https://www.ncba.org/CMDocs/BeefUSA/Resources/cc2012-Beef-Feed-Efficiency--Dan-Shike.pdf . From a nutrition standpoint (only), this might be OK, if the poultry contained 2-times the protein of the soybeans, but it doesn't! 100 grams of as-harvested soybeans contains 36 grams of protein: https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4375/2, but 100 grams of as-harvested (with skin) chicken contains only 30 grams of protein: https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/poultry-products/699/2 . It's a losing proposition.
 
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I don't think that soybean cultivation is worse for the environment than oat cultivation. According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization, soybeans and oats have approximately the same water requirements: http://www.fao.org/3/s2022e/s2022e02.htm#2.2.1 influence of crop type on the daily crop water needs

Soybean cultivation is only "bad" in the sense that 98% of soybean meal is used for animal feed (per the Wisconsin Soybean Association: http://www.wisoybean.org/news/soybean_facts.php ), and feeding soybeans to livestock animals is inefficient - a waste of food resources.

According to the University of Illinois, it takes about 6 lbs. of feed to produce 1 lb. of beef, 3.5 lbs. of feed to produce 1 lb. of pork, and 2 lbs. of feed to produce 1 lb. of poultry: https://www.ncba.org/CMDocs/BeefUSA/Resources/cc2012-Beef-Feed-Efficiency--Dan-Shike.pdf . From a nutrition standpoint (only), this might be OK, if the poultry contained 2-times the protein of the soybeans, but it doesn't! 100 grams of as-harvested soybeans contains 36 grams of protein: https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4375/2, but 100 grams of as-harvested (with skin) chicken contains only 30 grams of protein: https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/poultry-products/699/2 . It's a losing proposition.
I was just responding to the paragraph in the article that @Lou posted:

"Compared to dairy milk, oat milk is better for the planet in terms of greenhouse emissions, land use, and water use. Pitting it against soy, rice, and almond milks, one study shows that oat milk is second lowest in terms of greenhouse emissions, requires a comparable amount of land, and consumes significantly less water than rice or almond milks. "
 
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Prior to my posting, I had read several such sites describing the process. But I am not knowledgeable enough to assess what I asked. Any process could have steps where for example an animal-based enzyme was used. Or maybe there is residue in the product from something that was used, etc. So that's why I am asking about Trader Joe's oat milk that contains water and hydrolyzed oats. Is it vegan and is it wholesome?
 

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I tried Silk oat chocolate milk recently and i'm not too happy bout it. I can really taste how bitter the cocoa powder is.Need to try another brand.
 
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Prior to my posting, I had read several such sites describing the process. But I am not knowledgeable enough to assess what I asked. Any process could have steps where for example an animal-based enzyme was used. Or maybe there is residue in the product from something that was used, etc. So that's why I am asking about Trader Joe's oat milk that contains water and hydrolyzed oats. Is it vegan and is it wholesome?
Yes, yes.
 
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