Sensitive question--Stronger erections omni v vegan?

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Ok guys and girls. I am a vegan female but am curious about this question.
Have you noticed that your erections are more satisfying, healthier, better, or longer lasting after you became vegan?. Has your partner
noticed the changes? Can you briefly describe without getting too personal and detailed? Are any changes, negative?. Has your body odor/smell,
including breath, bathroom aroma's, etcetera changed since you became vegan, and how long are you vegan? has your partner noticed the changes?
Some vegan women have stated in a study that they will not sleep with omnivore males anymore because their body odor and smells
are a turn-off. They notice a big difference between omnivore, versus, vegan, males (who smell better).
I will tell you, I had a vegan girlfriend who ate cheese and dairy. Her fluids were disgusting, smelling and tasting like slimy cheese, yuk. Once was enough.
Cadavers in the body do rot and stink after several days.
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No change. The only time anyone really could tell a measurable difference is if they had high cholesterol and heart blockage, and then later turned vegan.

In other words, there is no meaningful difference between a healthy vegans erection and a healthy carnivore's erection.

But it sounds like a great selling point. " Go vegan and have amazing erections. Vegan women standing by to test it out":cool:
 
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No change. The only time anyone really could tell a measurable difference is if they had high cholesterol and heart blockage, and then later turned vegan.

In other words, there is no meaningful difference between a healthy vegans erection and a healthy carnivore's erection.

But it sounds like a great selling point. " Go vegan and have amazing erections. Vegan women standing by to test it out":cool:

"If they had high cholesterol and heart blockage and then turned vegan"....Of course, that makes sense.
Are your statements talking about YOUR personal experiences, or your views in general for everyone else?.
You have your opinions, but I honestly believe there is a difference, as the short sequence in the Game Changers movie showed.
More and more males are experiencing E.D. and at younger and younger ages. The phrase "40 over 40" means that 40% of males over 40 have e.d.
My belief is that saturated fats, especially animals fats found in animal proteins, clog the arteries of the heart and ***** and they
stop functioning well. Eating more animal protein continues to make this worse, thus increases in cardiovascular disease and sales of viagra.
The average American adult consumes about 275 pounds of flesh and blood every year, plus about 500
pounds of dairy products (if they eat them). These statistics have been increasing.
Try these links, cheers:
sperm count
testosterone results
 

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"If they had high cholesterol and heart blockage and then turned vegan"....Of course, that makes sense.
Are your statements talking about YOUR personal experiences, or your views in general for everyone else?.
You have your opinions, but I honestly believe there is a difference, as the short sequence in the Game Changers movie showed.
More and more males are experiencing E.D. and at younger and younger ages. The phrase "40 over 40" means that 40% of males over 40 have e.d.
My belief is that saturated fats, especially animals fats found in animal proteins, clog the arteries of the heart and ***** and they
stop functioning well. Eating more animal protein continues to make this worse, thus increases in cardiovascular disease and sales of viagra.
The average American adult consumes about 275 pounds of flesh and blood every year, plus about 500
pounds of dairy products (if they eat them). These statistics have been increasing.
Try these links, cheers:
sperm count
testosterone results
It seems that you've convinced yourself that a vegan diet improves erections.

btw, YouTube is a very poor/unreliable source for accurate information.
 

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I have noticed no difference, nor has anyone else who could have noticed. I've been carnivore, omnivore, vegan, vegetarian and back again and I've never noticed a difference in that particular topic.

I overall tend to feel better on a vegan diet, though, if I stick with it long enough. Especially if I exercise.
 

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Ok guys and girls. I am a vegan female but am curious about this question.
Have you noticed that your erections are more satisfying, healthier, better, or longer lasting after you became vegan?. Has your partner
noticed the changes? Can you briefly describe without getting too personal and detailed? Are any changes, negative?. Has your body odor/smell,
including breath, bathroom aroma's, etcetera changed since you became vegan, and how long are you vegan? has your partner noticed the changes?
Some vegan women have stated in a study that they will not sleep with omnivore males anymore because their body odor and smells
are a turn-off. They notice a big difference between omnivore, versus, vegan, males (who smell better).
I will tell you, I had a vegan girlfriend who ate cheese and dairy. Her fluids were disgusting, smelling and tasting like slimy cheese, yuk. Once was enough.
Cadavers in the body do rot and stink after several days.
Thank you for listening and replying.
Again, saying a vegan diet only says what is NOT eaten. Eliminating products from animals has benefits, but so does eating a whole food diet, no sugars or oil, with some meats

Now, eating a whole food plant based diet HAS been found to give many benefits of sexual performance

Oh, and was the girlfriend vegan, or did she eat cheese and dairy? Can't be both!
 

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I have a friend that told me he was eating viagra like it was candy. After going vegan, although it was almost a year after, my friend noticed a huge difference. In fact, he brags that he no longer needs pills to maintain an erection. I have to laugh, because he couldn't care less about vegan philosophy, but when it comes to sex, he's all in for veganism. No pun intended.

His blood work has greatly improved as well. He was borderline diabetic, had high cholesterol, and had high blood pressure before going plant-based. He took a few different medications. Evidently, all of that is gone now, including all the medications. He didn't even cut out oil, which I would have thought necessary to improve those stats. He simply cut out dairy, eggs, and all meat....he went completely vegan.

I do believe him. I think for him his age was working against him. He's over 60. His blood work was bad for years, as was his health. I have seen amazing improvements in his health since going vegan, including a huge weight loss. However, he made other lifestyle changes at the same time. He works out now and walks miles every day. Something I should consider. Impressive, nonetheless.

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I have a friend that told me he was eating viagra like it was candy. After going vegan, although it was almost a year after, my friend noticed a huge difference. In fact, he brags that he no longer needs pills to maintain an erection. I have to laugh, because he couldn't care less about vegan philosophy, but when it comes to sex, he's all in for veganism. No pun intended.

His blood work has greatly improved as well. He was borderline diabetic, had high cholesterol, and had high blood pressure before going plant-based. He took a few different medications. Evidently, all of that is gone now, including all the medications. He didn't even cut out oil, which I would have thought necessary to improve those stats. He simply cut out dairy, eggs, and all meat....he went completely vegan.

I do believe him. I think for him his age was working against him. He's over 60. His blood work was bad for years, as was his health. I have seen amazing improvements in his health since going vegan, including a huge weight loss. However, he made other lifestyle changes at the same time. He works out now and walks miles every day. Something I should consider. Impressive, nonetheless.

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It seems that you've convinced yourself that a vegan diet improves erections.

btw, YouTube is a very poor/unreliable source for accurate information.
Hi, did you watch the video's?. Youtube did not make them, they were added by other humans. This is not a political or
"conspiracy" issue so why would the video info above, made by others and backed by scientific facts, above, be unreliable?.
What causes the problem in the first place?. Eliminate the cause and you have the solution. Saturated fats clog the heart
and penile arteries, this is a scientific fact. The penile arteries are smaller and clog FASTER. And, heart disease can be reversed
by a whole food vegan diet. The same goes for an e.d. problem. Saturated fats in a vegan diet are rare but there are hydrogenated
fats and coconut oil to mention.
Thanks for sharing your beliefs. Just my belief system as a female.
Dr. Esselstyn is known for his discussions on the topic in detail, whether his video's are on youtube or somewhere else.
 

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Hi, did you watch the video's?. Youtube did not make them, they were added by other humans. This is not a political or
"conspiracy" issue so why would the video info above, made by others and backed by scientific facts, above, be unreliable?.
What causes the problem in the first place?. Eliminate the cause and you have the solution. Saturated fats clog the heart
and penile arteries, this is a scientific fact. The penile arteries are smaller and clog FASTER. And, heart disease can be reversed
by a whole food vegan diet. The same goes for an e.d. problem. Saturated fats in a vegan diet are rare but there are hydrogenated
fats and coconut oil to mention.
Thanks for sharing your beliefs. Just my belief system as a female.
Dr. Esselstyn is known for his discussions on the topic in detail, whether his video's are on youtube or somewhere else.
Dr Esselstyn advocates a whole food plant based diet, no sugar, no salt, as little fat as possible (not just no oil). It's a very specific type of vegan diet
I've known many omnivores with far healthier food choices--all organic, probably more variety and quantity of produce than most vegans, treating meat more as a side than a main. no sugars or oils or processed foods
If you want to argue health benefits you need to stick to equal comparisons, rather than the worst of omni and the best of vegan
 

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I have a friend that told me he was eating viagra like it was candy. After going vegan, although it was almost a year after, my friend noticed a huge difference. In fact, he brags that he no longer needs pills to maintain an erection. I have to laugh, because he couldn't care less about vegan philosophy, but when it comes to sex, he's all in for veganism. No pun intended.

His blood work has greatly improved as well. He was borderline diabetic, had high cholesterol, and had high blood pressure before going plant-based. He took a few different medications. Evidently, all of that is gone now, including all the medications. He didn't even cut out oil, which I would have thought necessary to improve those stats. He simply cut out dairy, eggs, and all meat....he went completely vegan.

I do believe him. I think for him his age was working against him. He's over 60. His blood work was bad for years, as was his health. I have seen amazing improvements in his health since going vegan, including a huge weight loss. However, he made other lifestyle changes at the same time. He works out now and walks miles every day. Something I should consider. Impressive, nonetheless.

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Sounds like he went plant based for health huh? No surprise then
 

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Sounds like he went plant based for health huh?
100 percent!

He doesn't care about the philosophy, and refuses to even use the word "vegan". As far as he's concerned, he's a vegetarian, despite that being incorrect. He just doesn't care. People do seem less concerned about vegetarians, as apposed to vegans. I think people, in general, find vegans more extreme. Anyhow, there is no arguing his results.

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100 percent!

He doesn't care about the philosophy, and refuses to even use the word "vegan". As far as he's concerned, he's a vegetarian, despite that being incorrect. He just doesn't care. People do seem less concerned about vegetarians, as apposed to vegans. I think people, in general, find vegans more extreme. Anyhow, there is no arguing his results.

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Yes, but my point is that that is very specific, while a vegan diet is nothing but no animal products. It's simply wrong to generalize 'vegan diet' with the health benefits of wfpb,.
It also makes it hard for those vegans who are vegan for ethics and not health with all the criticism of "it may be vegan but it's not healthy"
If you want to talk about health talk you need to be more specific than saying 'vegan'
 

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No changes when it comes to sex, but the smell thing definitely yes, I also seem to have a better sense of smell, maybe because I also eliminated most scented products as I transitioned to vegan.
 

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Hi, did you watch the video's?. Youtube did not make them, they were added by other humans. This is not a political or
"conspiracy" issue so why would the video info above, made by others and backed by scientific facts, above, be unreliable?.
What causes the problem in the first place?. Eliminate the cause and you have the solution. Saturated fats clog the heart
and penile arteries, this is a scientific fact. The penile arteries are smaller and clog FASTER. And, heart disease can be reversed
by a whole food vegan diet. The same goes for an e.d. problem. Saturated fats in a vegan diet are rare but there are hydrogenated
fats and coconut oil to mention.
Thanks for sharing your beliefs. Just my belief system as a female.
Dr. Esselstyn is known for his discussions on the topic in detail, whether his video's are on youtube or somewhere else.
I have watched the videos and I have rooted through to find references to the underlying studies that provide the evidence that might back the videos up. There are lots of links citing other videos, but few which, if one follows the path, actually end up in scientific papers.

The low testosterone video cites a NutritionFacts video rather than a study, but that latter video is about (and cites) a study on protein proportions in diet and how they affect pregnancy. It's an interesting study which concludes there is enough correlation in their findings between high protein diets (particularly with animal proteins) and infant adiposity to warrant a further study with a larger cohort. Interesting, but not relevant to testosterone.

The only reference to a RELEVANT scientific study is the Impact of the Vegan Diet on Sperm Quality and Sperm Oxidative Stress Values: A Preliminary Study, which used 10 vegan males and 10 omnivore males. Its findings demonstrate good grounds to carry out a more detailed study on a much larger cohort, although it's too small a study to draw any conclusions from at this stage.

Moving back on topic, however - the OP's headline suggestion that a vegan diet may affect erectile function - the video tackling this cited a number of studies but all were focused on diet vs cholesterol and the effect on arteries. Whilst the knock-on effect of restricted arteries on erectile function is well enough known, there was no mention of any study investigating whether a vegan diet improves erectile function over and above that of a healthy non-vegan male. That particular leap is entirely anecdotal and lacking in scientific evidence.

As for smell, this is something entirely different. In the 1960s in the UK when there was a rapid increase in the Indian/Asian population, there was relatively little interaction between different cultural groups. A common pejorative accusation at the time was that Indians "smelled funny", but the fullness of time has shown this simply to be related to a different diet. Indian cuisine rich in aromatic spices translated to the consumers' body odours. White British people tended not to consume those spices so their body odours differed. It wasn't that one or other group smelled whilst the other didn't, but simply that one group's smell was unfamiliar to the other. In this case, the difference between vegan diets and those incorporating animal products will inevitably translate into different body odours. Whether that is unattractive for one or other group is subjective, of course, but nonetheless inescapable.

Just as a point of detail, however, the OP's suggestion that "cadavers in the body do rot and stink after several days" is factually inaccurate. The term "cadaver" is used to denote a whole body - almost exclusively a human - and is not interchangeable with synonyms for flesh or other body parts. In addition, any flesh consumed will be broken down but does not rot - that's a completely different process - and the absence of air means it cannot smell, although the byproducts produced may well do so once they find their way outside the body either by secretion or excretion.
 

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I have watched the videos and I have rooted through to find references to the underlying studies that provide the evidence that might back the videos up. There are lots of links citing other videos, but few which, if one follows the path, actually end up in scientific papers.

The low testosterone video cites a NutritionFacts video rather than a study, but that latter video is about (and cites) a study on protein proportions in diet and how they affect pregnancy. It's an interesting study which concludes there is enough correlation in their findings between high protein diets (particularly with animal proteins) and infant adiposity to warrant a further study with a larger cohort. Interesting, but not relevant to testosterone.

The only reference to a RELEVANT scientific study is the Impact of the Vegan Diet on Sperm Quality and Sperm Oxidative Stress Values: A Preliminary Study, which used 10 vegan males and 10 omnivore males. Its findings demonstrate good grounds to carry out a more detailed study on a much larger cohort, although it's too small a study to draw any conclusions from at this stage.

Moving back on topic, however - the OP's headline suggestion that a vegan diet may affect erectile function - the video tackling this cited a number of studies but all were focused on diet vs cholesterol and the effect on arteries. Whilst the knock-on effect of restricted arteries on erectile function is well enough known, there was no mention of any study investigating whether a vegan diet improves erectile function over and above that of a healthy non-vegan male. That particular leap is entirely anecdotal and lacking in scientific evidence.

As for smell, this is something entirely different. In the 1960s in the UK when there was a rapid increase in the Indian/Asian population, there was relatively little interaction between different cultural groups. A common pejorative accusation at the time was that Indians "smelled funny", but the fullness of time has shown this simply to be related to a different diet. Indian cuisine rich in aromatic spices translated to the consumers' body odours. White British people tended not to consume those spices so their body odours differed. It wasn't that one or other group smelled whilst the other didn't, but simply that one group's smell was unfamiliar to the other. In this case, the difference between vegan diets and those incorporating animal products will inevitably translate into different body odours. Whether that is unattractive for one or other group is subjective, of course, but nonetheless inescapable.

Just as a point of detail, however, the OP's suggestion that "cadavers in the body do rot and stink after several days" is factually inaccurate. The term "cadaver" is used to denote a whole body - almost exclusively a human - and is not interchangeable with synonyms for flesh or other body parts. In addition, any flesh consumed will be broken down but does not rot - that's a completely different process - and the absence of air means it cannot smell, although the byproducts produced may well do so once they find their way outside the body either by secretion or excretion.
I used to get stinky gas when I ate meat, with no meat the very worse is a fleeting cruciferous whiff that dissapates quickly. Meat gas would linger.
My breath is absolutely better, and my mouth as a whole feels better
I have been told other areas taste better, even with my past husband who wasn't even happy when I went veg
I think my pits are better, but I get stress stink which I guess is a different thing, and only in stress situations
 

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No. I also have not really noticed any significant difference overall. Except errr... bathroom habits after eating lots of beans/lentils. That said, I do not personally believe that a vegan diet is the healthiest diet, and I worried about how a vegan diet would affect me. Sure, I did the research and believed the arguments that we should get enough nutrition from a plants only diet. I checked with Chronometer and did frequent bloods. Overall, my health now after almost 10 years is worse than before. But equally, I am 10 years older at the wrong end of life so it might just be bad luck. My wife's health has also deteriorated. Perhaps it is just aging. I remain suspicious...
 
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Dr Esselstyn advocates a whole food plant based diet, no sugar, no salt, as little fat as possible (not just no oil). It's a very specific type of vegan diet
I've known many omnivores with far healthier food choices--all organic, probably more variety and quantity of produce than most vegans, treating meat more as a side than a main. no sugars or oils or processed foods
If you want to argue health benefits you need to stick to equal comparisons, rather than the worst of omni and the best of vegan
yes his diet is very plain and many humans cannot handle it. take other 'diets' like those by dr. greger or
dr. fuhrman. omnivores who eat healthier are not the majority!.
many vegans do not eat healthfully and rely on processed foods. however, i do believe the saturated fats in
animal products clog the heart and penile arteries and lead to dysfunction. Polls show some males state they
would rather live shorter lives than give up their fix. cheers.