Hi to all

[vgrooveman]

Hello all

I am new to vegan. Have been on a diet and lost more than 15 kg.

Got rid of 5 food groups that I am allergic to.

Saw The Game Changers and Seaspircy and Conspiracy - realised that I was nearly there.

Can anyone direct me a thread that already discusses the mix of vegetable protein sources to cover all bases as such.

Understand from reading this forum that B12 is needed as a supplement regardless of the votable mix you consume - is this correct.

Thank you in advance.

Cheers

 

[Lou]

Hi. welcome.

Got rid of 5 food groups that I am allergic to.

There are only 5 food groups. you can't be allergic to them all. I'm guessing that you are allergic to 5 foods - but even that is a lot. how are you coping?

Saw The Game Changers and Seaspircy and Conspiracy - realised that I was nearly there.

Nice! What The Health?! probably should be included in that group.

Can anyone direct me a thread that already discusses the mix of vegetable protein sources to cover all bases as such.

I'm not sure we have one. but lets wait too see what the other guys say. Right now they are all asleep.

I think your are referring to the concept of Protein Combining. If that is what you are referring to, you can rest easy. The concept of protein combining is a myth. I'll post some sources where you can read about it if you're interested.

Hey Vegetarians and Vegans: It's Time to Debunk the Protein Combining Myth - EcoWatch

www.ecowatch.com

Protein for Vegetarians (& the myth of incomplete proteins)

Now if you don't feel like reading all that stuff - here is the synopsis.
"there’s no need to worry about eating complementary proteins, as long as you’re eating enough calories."
"as long as you’re eating a variety of plant-based protein sources, you’re good."

there are two things that Maybe need to be emphasized: that you are eating enough calories AND a variety of plant-based foods. I bring those up cause every once in a while I hear from a vegan who is not doing one or the other.

The thing I always recommend to people who are concerned with nutrition is to try CronOmeter (its free). its a tool that can calculate calories and protein consumption (and everything else, too)

Understand from reading this forum that B12 is needed as a supplement regardless of the votable mix you consume - is this correct.

not sure what you meant by "votable Mix". but you need to supplement your B12.
I think Dr. Gregar gives us the best info on the subject.

Vitamin B12: The Latest Research | NutritionFacts.org

 

[silva]

Hello all

I am new to vegan. Have been on a diet and lost more than 15 kg.

Got rid of 5 food groups that I am allergic to.

Saw The Game Changers and Seaspircy and Conspiracy - realised that I was nearly there.

Can anyone direct me a thread that already discusses the mix of vegetable protein sources to cover all bases as such.

Understand from reading this forum that B12 is needed as a supplement regardless of the votable mix you consume - is this correct.

Thank you in advance.

Cheers

Welcome!
You can still this annual Plant based health event, and get the replays.

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What foods are you avoiding and why?

 

[shyvas]

Hola &

If you are following a vegan lifestyle to solely lose weight,it may not be the best choice. It has to be carefully planned and you do need to
supplement with vitamin B12. Moreover, seniors may also require more supplements depending on various factors.

The vegan diet - NHS

www.nhs.uk

 

[vgrooveman]

Hi

yes the foods are sugar, gluten, soy, diary and rice!

 

[Veganite]

Welcome from Canada!

 

[Chryssie]

 

[Lou]

Hi

yes the foods are sugar, gluten, soy, diary and rice!

There are doctors that specialize in diagnosing and treating allergies. You really should see one of those.

Many people confuse allergies with intolerances. If you are allergic to a food your immune system gets involved and this can be very serious. with an intolerance, it is just your digestive system. Although those too can be serious.

another reason to see a doctor about this is that many allergies and intolerances are treatable or manageable.

An allergy to sugar is exceedingly rare. a sugar intolerance is way more common. . the thing is that you are probably not intolerant to all kinds of sugar. For instance the most common form of sugar intolerance is lactose intolerance. Something like half the population is lactose intolerant. Lactose is the sugar in milk. being allergic to milk is very unusual.

Gluten intolerance is way more common than an allergy to gluten. Again a trip to the doctor to confirm this is really a good idea. in one study about half the people who thought they were gluten intolerant weren't.

 

[Lou]

Hola &

If you are following a vegan lifestyle to solely lose weight,it may not be the best choice. It has to be carefully planned and you do need to
supplement with vitamin B12. Moreover, seniors may also require more supplements depending on various factors.

The vegan diet - NHS

www.nhs.uk

losing weight on a vegan diet is not that much harder than losing weight on any other diet. and depending on how you do it - probably healthier.

And there are plenty of vegan weight loss plans available. Either in books like How Not to Die or Eat To Live.
I'm pretty sure you can find a few on the internet with just a bit of googling.

However a vegan weight loss plan that also excludes "sugar, gluten, soy, diary and rice" will be almost impossible to find.

I am curious, how are you managing?

 

[vgrooveman]

Hi
Yes have been to a doctor in the past and it is confirmed.

I just eat vegetables, fruit and plant based protein since I have dropped off all meats.

I avoid fish also.

Doing well so far.

 

[Emma JC]

welcome to the forum!

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[Lou]

Can anyone direct me a thread that already discusses the mix of vegetable protein sources to cover all bases as such.

I probably shouldn't have dismissed this concern of yours giving later on you revealed you are allergic to sugar, gluten, soy, diary and rice.

Well, the sugar and the dairy aren't going to be big problems. All the Whole Food Plant Based Diets don't include those anyway. Rice won't be too big an issue either - there are other grains that you can eat.
Gluten will be difficult but there are gluten free and even soy and gluten free vegans. In fact, there is one that I know IRL and blogs about it. However I don't remember her name off hand but I'll post something equally useful at the bottom of the page.

One of the things that I recommend to almost all new vegans is to learn about CronOmeter. And I think that goes double for you. With your restrictions you may have problems meeting your nutritional requirements. Cronometer makes it easier to evaluate your diet - nutrient-wise.

About Tess Masters - The Blender Girl

www.theblendergirl.com

Vegan Gluten-Free and Soy-Free Diet Guide

15 Soy-Free Gluten-Free Vegan Meals that Everyone Can Enjoy! - One Green Planet

How to Eat Soy-Free, Gluten-Free and Vegan (Without Going Insane) - One Green Planet

 

[vgrooveman]

Well I went to a specialist and confirmed this based on trail and error and some hard reactions from withdrawal of these foods types.

Thank you for Cronometer - I have activated now.

 

[silva]

Well I went to a specialist and confirmed this based on trail and error and some hard reactions from withdrawal of these foods types.

Thank you for Cronometer - I have activated now.

If it isn't Celiac or a real soy allergy it's quite possible you could eat them again once your gut biome changes, and it will, esp if you eat wfpb

Amazon.com

www.amazon.com

How to Increase Gut Bacterial Richness

nutritionfacts.org

and Dr Gregers book How Not to Diet is a fascinating read on everything food, genetics, culture, physiology .... not weight loss

 

[vgrooveman]

Thank you all for your support. Especially Cronometer software.

I notice that I am clearer in the first week and have more energy.

I will look at What The Health? today.

 

[Amy SF]

Welcome to the Vegan Forum.

 

[vgrooveman]

Hello

Is there any software that will breakdown the different type of proteins that you receiving from the foods inputed into the system which are

9 essential amino acids are: histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptophan, and valine.

I have found this one

Total Amino Acids in Dried Sunflower Seeds

tools.myfooddata.com

 

[silva]

Hello

Is there any software that will breakdown the different type of proteins that you receiving from the foods inputed into the system which are

9 essential amino acids are: histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptophan, and valine.

I have found this one

Total Amino Acids in Dried Sunflower Seeds

tools.myfooddata.com

Ok, but first be sure you recognize that plants have complete proteins for humans--

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/01.CIR.0000018905.97677.1F

The one area that I feel is worth mentioning, mostly because it's such a great staple food, is the combo of grains and beans. Grains are low in lysine, beans low in methionine, but combined they are converted to more than there sum (or something like that)
Other than that, eat a variety, you're good!

Essential amino acids in plant food - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Lou]

Hello

Is there any software that will breakdown the different type of proteins that you receiving from the foods inputed

Cronometer does that. except for some processed foods. If a processed food does not have the information on the label - then Cronometer probably won't provide the breakdown. But it will do that for sunflower seeds or just about anything you buy in the produce aisle. It even does it for things like plant milk and tofu.
But not for things like hot dogs and ice cream.

 

[vgrooveman]

Thank you.

Well now just to explore foods with lentils, beans and other grains that I usually do not cook.