I am a believer I can make that if I try...
Traditional notion of a capacitor has the two sides not actually touch each other, it goes through the dielectric... normally it never does that but the dogma of the textbooks say that's how it works, well I tried several different ways following several different tutorials, it doesn't work, or hasn't so far, I intend to do a few more experiments before giving in and spending 10x the amount of money on ebay capacitors for barely enough capacity just for myself... physical size matters so if I could spend all the cash just on the aluminum foil and then use the free newspapers as the dielectric (I dont see what would be wrong with that, if you can use magazines you can use newspapers) I would have enough for a lot of chargers... Capacitors are important because of their ability to absorb as much current as possible, phone batteries charging at 10 watts when the wall can do 1800 is absurd ********, the converter chip is a dollar...
Tried this several different ways (0.5-9v, no cap on current, several differently wrapped capacitors with different layers like baking paper instead of newspaper) nothing worked like the capacitors I bought online... Followed several different instructions from several different sources on paper capacitors, took this video showing what's going on, made it as simple and as completely verified as possible (I guess I could have had it starting on something being powered by the power supply just to prove it was working but I did do that earlier off camera... I doubt anybody cares)
https://www.instructables.com/Aluminum-Foil-Plate-Capacitor/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGfZdw6WaQY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npliU4Wny5U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPD7skZ8OSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkt2wbf1_5o
my intuition tells me it would make sense that you would need something like a diode on the other end of the capacitors two plates from the two contact points pointing towards the positive side in order to have the effect... just having plates like this does make sense it wouldn't work that way, but that's how all the textbooks say it is and all the video tutorials and all of the blablabla
btw when I did it the other way with the bridge rectifier what happened was the multimeter tripped but "something" was charging... after I disconnected the load the multimeter read there was 0.8v ~ for the diy capacitor that quickly dissipated (I assumed it was from other things), this article said that my assumption was correct, increasing the dielectric is what increases the voltage, but I did that, I had one version with one layer of paper and another version with 2 layers and they were both around the same amount... I guess I can always test again with 20 layers and 20 times more... but when does that stop? I guess I'll ask again if it doesn't work...
Traditional notion of a capacitor has the two sides not actually touch each other, it goes through the dielectric... normally it never does that but the dogma of the textbooks say that's how it works, well I tried several different ways following several different tutorials, it doesn't work, or hasn't so far, I intend to do a few more experiments before giving in and spending 10x the amount of money on ebay capacitors for barely enough capacity just for myself... physical size matters so if I could spend all the cash just on the aluminum foil and then use the free newspapers as the dielectric (I dont see what would be wrong with that, if you can use magazines you can use newspapers) I would have enough for a lot of chargers... Capacitors are important because of their ability to absorb as much current as possible, phone batteries charging at 10 watts when the wall can do 1800 is absurd ********, the converter chip is a dollar...
Tried this several different ways (0.5-9v, no cap on current, several differently wrapped capacitors with different layers like baking paper instead of newspaper) nothing worked like the capacitors I bought online... Followed several different instructions from several different sources on paper capacitors, took this video showing what's going on, made it as simple and as completely verified as possible (I guess I could have had it starting on something being powered by the power supply just to prove it was working but I did do that earlier off camera... I doubt anybody cares)
https://www.instructables.com/Aluminum-Foil-Plate-Capacitor/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGfZdw6WaQY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npliU4Wny5U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPD7skZ8OSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkt2wbf1_5o
my intuition tells me it would make sense that you would need something like a diode on the other end of the capacitors two plates from the two contact points pointing towards the positive side in order to have the effect... just having plates like this does make sense it wouldn't work that way, but that's how all the textbooks say it is and all the video tutorials and all of the blablabla
btw when I did it the other way with the bridge rectifier what happened was the multimeter tripped but "something" was charging... after I disconnected the load the multimeter read there was 0.8v ~ for the diy capacitor that quickly dissipated (I assumed it was from other things), this article said that my assumption was correct, increasing the dielectric is what increases the voltage, but I did that, I had one version with one layer of paper and another version with 2 layers and they were both around the same amount... I guess I can always test again with 20 layers and 20 times more... but when does that stop? I guess I'll ask again if it doesn't work...
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