Army Medics shoot live pigs for 'training' Surgeons...

[Alice-Bee]

And after the pigs are saved by the Surgeons...they are killed.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ing-pigs-for-army-medic-training-8328148.html

 

[shyvas]

I put up a petiton concerning animals used by the US army on the other forum.
Wouldn't it better to use a deseased human who has donated their body to science ?

 

[Alice-Bee]

I have no idea what they are thinking.
Although amusingly enough Ive just been watching a UK morning discussion show where they are talking about this and most people who objected and said it was horrible are meat eaters...hmm.

I think the thinking is that the 'subject' needs to be healthy so that they can focus on a bullet or bomb wound not an illness that may affect a soilder.

 

[Muggle]

That article has missed out a rather important part. The pigs are anaesthetised for the whole thing. It's still wrong though.

Dr. Moonie: The Surgical Training Exercises in Denmark use pigs as surgical models because they are considered to have the closest physiological response to humans and are similar in size and weight. The pigs are deeply anaesthetised and then wounded by Danish Armed Forces' marksmen using weapons of three different calibres. Each animal is then given medical treatment as if it were a human casualty wounded in battle. Throughout, the pigs remain deeply anaesthetised and are humanely killed at the end of the exercise without regaining consciousness. Veterinary staff are in attendance at all times during the exercise and may withdraw an animal at any point for any reason.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199900/cmhansrd/vo000605/text/00605w05.htm

That's from 2000. But they are still anaesthetising them. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-animals-Nato-base-NHS-surgeons-practice.html I hate to use the Daily Fail as a source but at least they haven't omitted the anaesthetising part unlike the Indie.

 

[Muggle]

OK, new information. They aren't just shooting the pigs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-secret-military-experiments-Porton-Down.html

Pigs have been blown up, guinea pigs poisoned and marmosets given anthrax in germ and chemical warfare experiments at the top secret British military research base, it has emerged.
The campaign group that uncovered the details of the 'cruel and grotesque' research projects by scientists at the Porton Down labs in Wiltshire said that in some cases it appeared the animals had been given nothing to ease their pain.
Many of the experiments involved substantial suffering and led to the death of the animals, the British Union for Abolition of Vivisection's investigation found.

 

[shyvas]

OK, new information. They aren't just shooting the pigs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-secret-military-experiments-Porton-Down.html